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[Pyrpolizer]

In case she decides to pursue her EU road even towards a special relation the "trnv" will be just a trump card.

[souroul]

Your assumption is wrong to start with. In case she walks out of the EU she will not do it because of "trnv" but because she would perhaps thinks she can do better pursuing other paths.

i will have to second that. i doubt turkey gives 2 shits about the trnvcd or whatever its called. my take on this is that they're trying to prove something, or just see how much the EU needs them , or not. it would be fun to see the new lira go down the drain again after the negotiations officialy stop.

[Viewpoint]

Your assumption is wrong to start with. In case she walks out of the EU she will not do it because of "trnv" but because she would perhaps thinks she can do better pursuing other paths.

You are still avoiding the question, if for whatever reason Turkey takes a walk out of the EU perspective where does that leave the GC south? A disinterested Turkey is not in your best interests me thinks, thats why you are finding difficult to address. Who will you use your EU leverage on?

[miltiades]

VP , Turkey has one goal in this century , EU Membership .
You tend to under estimate Turkey's commitment to membership , are you perhaps hoping that Turkey will abandon it's long yearning to become a full member of the most influential union ever ?

[Pyrpolizer]

VP you are missing the obvious answer. If Turkey walks out the EU leverage is simply over either temporarily (2-3 years) or for ever. The question is what happens to Turkey after that I mean if she permanently moves out or temporarily. If permanantly then in my opinion the consequences for Turkey as a country will be devastating. What kind and which leverages we will have after that is a question for the future.
I have my personal predictions but they are just personal predictions.

You may of course start counting the consequences for the TC people...

[Viewpoint]

VP , Turkey has one goal in this century , EU Membership .
You tend to under estimate Turkey's commitment to membership , are you perhaps hoping that Turkey will abandon it's long yearning to become a full member of the most influential union ever ?

Im just trrying to express the importance of Turkey staying on course if you are firm believer of wanting a solution otherwise a disinterested Turkey will mean status quo forever.

[Viewpoint]

VP you are missing the obvious answer. If Turkey walks out the EU leverage is simply over either temporarily (2-3 years) or for ever. The question is what happens to Turkey after that I mean if she permanently moves out or temporarily. If permanantly then in my opinion the consequences for Turkey as a country will be devastating. What kind and which leverages we will have after that is a question for the future.
I have my personal predictions but they are just personal predictions.

You may of course start counting the consequences for the TC people...

The economical impact and Turkey after EU exit do not really concern you, (although your comments show you wish them off the face of the earth) Turkey is a resilent country she will get through it but you should be more concerned ,if you really want reunifcation because that hope will be lost forever.

[observer]

How about the international community, and the EU specifically, meeting its commitments to the people of Northern Cyprus. This is what Turkey is asking for. The following quotations indicate what is being asked for.

Following the 2004 Referendum, The UN Secretary-General H.E. Kofi Annan said:
"...the Turkish Cypriot vote (i.e. the 2004 Referendum)has undone any rationale for pressuring and isolating them. I would hope that the members of the Council can give a strong lead to all states to cooperate both bilaterally and in international bodies, to eliminate unnecessary restrictions and barriers that have the effect of isolating the Turkish Cypriots and impeding their development".
Similarly, on 26 April 2004, the EU Enlargement Commissioner Gunther Verhaugen stated that: "..., now we have to end the isolation of the North. The Commission is ready to take various measures for that aim".

[alexISS]

Even if Turkey abandons (or is forced to abandon) it's European path, the need for good relations with the EU will remain. Not recognizing an EU state will be similar to not recognizing a US state, it could lead to the termination of Turkish-EU relations, which in my opinion is even worse than a non EU-member Turkey

[Strahd]

Even if Turkey abandons (or is forced to abandon) it's European path, the need for good relations with the EU will remain. Not recognizing an EU state will be similar to not recognizing a US state, it could lead to the termination of Turkish-EU relations, which in my opinion is even worse than a non EU-member Turkey

Do not worry alexISS it will take them some time to ralise that... Their bakali tactics are of no use any longer...