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[bakala]

Piratis

of what crime do you judge me guilty ?
is it deciding to live on the North Coast of Cyprus among an hospitable and friendly people ?
or is it opposing your biased and unforgiving politics ?



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[Kifeas]

Piratis

of what crime do you judge me guilty ?
is it deciding to live on the North Coast of Cyprus among an hospitable and friendly people ?
or is it opposing your biased and unforgiving politics ?



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You are guilty of the crime to support and propagandise the perpetuation, consolidation and even legalisation of the usurping of the GC's historical homeland since the ancient times, and the usurping and destruction of their thousands of year’s old cultural and religious heritage.

You are guilty of the crime to support and propagandise the continuation and perpetuation of the ethnic cleansing of more than 1/3 of the indigenous GC population from their places of origin.

You are guilty of the crime to support, promote and propagandise the continuation and perpetuation of the violation of all of the GC community’s historical, cultural, existential and human rights, that are associated with the occupied northern part of their country.

You are guilty of the crime to trespass, usurp, loot and destroy properties belonging to the ethnically cleansed from the north GCs, and to invite others to do the same.

You are an enemy of the GC community, you are an enemy of the people of Cyprus, you are an enemy of peace and reconciliation, you are an enemy of legality, you are an enemy of justice, you are an enemy of morality, you are an enemy of human rights, and you are an enemy of humanity and civilisation in general. You are a legitimate target of all sorts! Any action against you is legitimate!

[Pyrpolizer]

Trying to change the constitution that was signed by both sides without the legal authority of the TCs = Illegal.

Trying to ENOSIS the island without the votes of both sides = Illegal.

Killing English soldiers and TC policemen = Illegal.

Killing GC and TC civilians = Illegal.

Four counts and counting!!!!

Proposing to change the constitution that was signed by both sides with the legal authority of the TCs = LEGAL

Trying to TAKSIM the island without the votes of both sides = Illegal.

Killing English soldiers and TC policemen for Liberation from ILLEGAL Colonianism= LEGAL.

Killing GC and TC civilians by TMT = Illegal.

[bakala]

Kifeas

How do you claim that the island of Cyprus is the Greek Cypriots Historical homeland ? i though the island was annexed from Turkey by the British !

Who has historical claim to the island isint relevant today.

Your claim that i legitimise an illegal regime and am therefore a criminal is silly. havent you ever heard of free speech ? or is free speech banned in the ROC ?

your assumption that i bought a villa or land that once belonged to a Greek Cypriot is just that, an assumption. you see the problem is you think the Whole Island belongs to you and the Greek Cypriots and none of it should belong to the Turkish Cypriots, that's the kind of attitude that started all the trouble in the first place,

In your vision of a Cypriot utopia there are no Turkish Cypriots, do you plan to make them leave the island if you get complete control? what if they don't want to leave ? . will you make them leave or just kill them all like pre 74 ?

you are part of the Cyprus Problem mate not part of the solution.

if anyone is a fanatic its you. you refuse to listen to anyone who has an opinion different to yours. and anyone who doesn't agree with you therefore must be some kind of political terrorist .

you should join the little kids boards, this one is far too grown up for you and your veiled threats about me being a legitimate target doesn't impress anyone, in essence you are no better than the normal schoolyard bully everyone has come across in their childhood

you must lead an insignificant little life and this is the only place you feel you have any say in events, what happened did you get bullied at school or something to make you like you are ?

in my opinion you are an unreasoning bigot with a superiority complex bordering on hysteria


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[Kifeas]

Kifeas

How do you claim that the island of Cyprus is the Greek Cypriots Historical homeland ?!

Yes, the whole island belongs to all the GCs and it is the GC's historical homeland! The whole of it, and not just a part of it! It also belongs to the indigenous TCs! The whole of the island, and not just a part of it!

i though the island was annexed from Turkey by the British !

You thought what? That above sentence alone shows your very low IQ! Only a fool can make and say the above claim! And why it doesn't belong to the Venetians who were the occupiers before the Ottoman Turks, fool? And why it doesn't belong to the Franks who were the occupiers before the Venetians, idiot? And why it doesn't belong to the Byzantines who were the rulers before the franks? And why it doesn't belong to Romans, the Persians, the Arabs, the Assyrians, etc, etc? It doesn't belong to anyone of them, neither it belongs or ever belonged to the Ottoman Turks, simply because it only belongs (the whole of it) to its indigenous legal people, GCs and TCs alike! the whole of it, and not just one part to the GCs and another to the TCs? Idiot! The owners of a place are not those that occupy it by force, but only its indigenous population, its legal inhabitants! And the GCs were its indigenous inhabitants for thousands of years, and you will not come nowadays, a crook from the UK, to change our history and dispute our natural and historical rights! Fagot!

Who has historical claim to the island isint relevant today.

You say it is irrelevant because it suits you to say so! Because you have hidden interests to say so.

Your claim that i legitimise an illegal regime and am therefore a criminal is silly. havent you ever heard of free speech ? or is free speech banned in the ROC ?

Free speech doesn't mean you have the right to support, promote and propagandise illegalities, and to support, promote and propagandise the continuation of the violation of other people's human rights! You have no such right!

your assumption that i bought a villa or land that once belonged to a Greek Cypriot is just that, an assumption. you see the problem is you think the Whole Island belongs to you and the Greek Cypriots and none of it should belong to the Turkish Cypriots, that's the kind of attitude that started all the trouble in the first place,

You said you "bought" property that belongs to GCs! 60% of the land in the occupied north belongs to GC individuals, 16% belongs to TC individuals, and the remaining 24% is RoC state owned, national land and property, belonging to all the Cypriots, to all the GC and TC citizens of the RoC!

In your vision of a Cypriot utopia there are no Turkish Cypriots, do you plan to make them leave the island if you get complete control? what if they don't want to leave ? . will you make them leave or just kill them all like pre 74 ?

Another nonsense that proves your total and absolute stupidity! You even put words in my mouth, simply because you are unable to understand anything regarding the GC views, but only what those that indoctrinated you in the Turkish nationalistic propaganda told you!

you are part of the Cyprus Problem mate not part of the solution.

Precicely the opposite! You are part of the problem!

if anyone is a fanatic its you. you refuse to listen to anyone who has an opinion different to yours. and anyone who doesn't agree with you therefore must be some kind of political terrorist .

Your opinion is the opinion of an opinionated brainwashed ignorant, the opinion of an immoral outlaw and a vagabond, and there is need for me to listen to it! I learned the kind of views you and your likes promote, almost by hard already! I know precisely every little foolish argument you will used at any given case and instance!

you should join the little kids boards, this one is far too grown up for you and your veiled threats about me being a legitimate target doesn't impress anyone, in essence you are no better than the normal schoolyard bully everyone has come across in their childhood

You are a very legitimate target of all sorts because you support, promote and propagandise the continuation and consolidation of the violation of my human and cultural rights associated with the occupation of my country and the usurping and theft of my properties in the north part of Cyprus!

You are a legitimate target because you deny my freedom to exist in my country and my freedom to enjoy my family properties and my right to enjoy my paternal home in the occupied north of my country. All the above make you a lethal enemy of me and the rest of the GCs, and will not shed a tear -in fact we will welcome it with joy, to see you dead, rather than seat here and argue with you whether you should respect our natural human rights or not!

you must lead an insignificant little life and this is the only place you feel you have any say in events, what happened did you get bullied at school or something to make you like you are ?

in my opinion you are an unreasoning bigot with a superiority complex bordering on hysteria

In Greek it is called "aei gamisou," in Turkish it is called "siktir" and in English it is called "f@ck off!" Choose whichever of the three you like most! Just wish you never come accross me in your life!

[Piratis]

Piratis

of what crime do you judge me guilty ?
is it deciding to live on the North Coast of Cyprus among an hospitable and friendly people ?
or is it opposing your biased and unforgiving politics ?
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bakala, I remember the posts you made some time ago before you re-appeared very well. All indications show that that you are guilty of "buying" GC property in occupied Cyprus.

The illegality of the occupation and the puppet state that Turkey has installed in the north part of our country is confirmed by all courts and all countries.

The only one who refuse to accept that those things are illegal are those that have something to gain from this illegality.

You seem to accept without questioning every single letter of the Turkish propaganda. It is obvious why you do that: Because you know that if justice is ever applied in Cyprus you will lose from your illegal investment and there is a great possibility that you will penalized as well.

You therefore decided to devote part of your time in a propaganda effort that you see as a way of doing what you can to secure your illegal investment.

How do you claim that the island of Cyprus is the Greek Cypriots Historical homeland ? i though the island was annexed from Turkey by the British !

Here your colonialist fascist character shines. The island my friend belongs to the people that they and their ancestors have lived here for 100s or even 1000s of years. It does not belong to any empire that temporary takes the island under its control in order to enslave and exploit its people.

or is free speech banned in the ROC ?

Personally I do not judge you based on what you said, but based on what you did. However, I would like to know: Is advocating and promoting crimes in public something legal in the UK? Or doing such thing is considered part of free speech?

you see the problem is you think the Whole Island belongs to you and the Greek Cypriots and none of it should belong to the Turkish Cypriots, that's the kind of attitude that started all the trouble in the first place,

The whole island belongs to all Cypriots as a whole, which includes Turkish Cypriots. Who said the opposite?

And if you want to see how the trouble started in the first place you have to go to our first interaction with the Turks on the island. 10s of thousands of GCs dead and 100s of years of oppression against us was what we had in the "first place".

will you make them leave or just kill them all like pre 74 ?

The Turkish propaganda a criminal crook of your kind repeats is soooo lame. "Kill them all"?? My friend, before 1974 an equal number of GCs and TCs got killed in the intercommunal conflict. Some 100s of people from each side.
On the other hand the Turks in 1974 had killed 6000 Greek Cypriots within days. And if we go further in history you can see that Turks were butchering 10s of thousands of GCs.

GCs have been the victims of Turks for the most part of the last 500 years, and this continues to be the case today. It is stupid that you try to selectively find tiny parts of our history to present GCs as the aggressors when the fact is the exact opposite for the 99% of our history.

you must lead an insignificant little life and this is the only place you feel you have any say in events, what happened did you get bullied at school or something to make you like you are ?

Kifeas is an intellectual person and I am sure he has achieved a lot. However even a person who achieved nothing in his life, is better than a crook like you. People like you have managed to achieve nothing in their lives and are now trying to gain something on the expense of other innocent people that are victims or an illegal occupation.

[bakala]

Piratis

i bought my villa and land on the 20th July this year. i have been off the boards since May this year, this means that i couldn't possibly have told anyone what sort of land or villa i bought . i have only been back online for 2 weeks. so any assumption that i have ex Greek Cypriot land is pure speculation on the part of you and your mate Kifeas.
As a matter of fact it doesn't bother me too much what sort of land is for sale here. as it is all under the control of the TRNC government, and no longer liable to Greek Cypriot controls or laws.

Your whole creed is based on past History. you have to realise that History is in the past and living in the past is unproductive, someday you will have to come to terms with the fact that the North belongs to the Turkish Cypriot people to do what they want with. and a couple of fanatics like you two can say or do what you want . it doesn't make any difference. Your own biased views carry no weight on either the boards or the political stage,

As for Kifeas being an intellectual. his posts show him to be nothing but a self centred bigot who keeps reeling out the same old claptrap. his penchant for resorting to abusive language is only the forte of the man who has a limited grasp of vocabulary.

your opinion that he is an intellectual, only places you on the same bottom rung of the same intellectual ladder



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[Viewpoint]

Moderator

are the following quotes allowed as we to can answer in the same fashion or even worse? Please take action now.

And the GCs were its indigenous inhabitants for thousands of years, and you will not come nowadays, a crook from the UK, to change our history and dispute our natural and historical rights! Fagot!

All the above make you a lethal enemy of me and the rest of the GCs, and will not shed a tear -in fact we will welcome it with joy, to see you dead

[bakala]

Viewpoint

it seems the intelectualy challenged Kefeas is only a schoolyard bully after all, At least viewpoint, you dont insist that everyone who doesent agree with you is either an idiot or a political dustbin.

People like these two are easy to deal with, after all they have the intellegence of retarded children
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[zan]

Don’t worry too much about the politics of Kifeas VP. One of his own country men has exposed his intentions by naming the person who telephoned him with threats not to criticise the GCs as it is working against his plan. Kifeas even gave him a visit at work to back up his threats. I wonder if he had his blue beret on at the time.

As for Piratis, I have compiled a few of his postings and will be sending it to his government and also to the EU. Incitement to violence should be one of the charges. This is the advice he gave to a couple thinking of moving to Cyprus.

Helen and Mick asked:
we're thinking of moving to cyprus to live early next year but we've been reading a lot of the posts on this forum & now we're thinking again as their seems to be quite a bit of hostility towards the english & also we seem to get payed less than people that live there already.i can understand people getting annoyed with the brits who move over & moan & groan & want to change the way cyrus is,but we want to move over to cyprus as thats what we want to leave behind.
all of your replies would be appreciated many thanks

Piratis replied:
The hostility is not against the English as a whole, but against certain individuals who seem to excuse the crimes that are committed against us by Turkey, or who dispute that Cypriots should have sovereignty over the whole island of Cyprus.

The reaction of Cypriots toward those individuals is of course natural. Do you think the British would like an Arab that was coming to UK and supported the London terrorist bombings?

As long as you do not express any kind of support to illegalities and you do not question our rights over our island, and as Andri said you do a minimum effort to adjust a bit and you don't expect that Cyprus will be UK with sun, then people here will be very friendly to you and you will have no problems at all.

How soon the violence against those that choose not to take his advice will be is what is worrying the couple.