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[Snad]

Here Here G man, its nice to see someone talking, actual sense, for a change

[pantheman]

At first i thought i wouldn't bother answering anymore on this subject, but i feel i have to reply.

First a thank you to the understanding members for their honesty and non judgemental attitudes

secondly, i only got aggressive when i was told , among other things, "...to get a fast car..." instead.

Just for the record, i already care for 14 (used to be 22) stray cats. I have given them a secure home and they get fed everyday. I already care for a small mongrel dog (actually belongs to my father in law) but she is a family pet. And just 2 days ago another stary cat decided to live with us.

So, please, i don't need the cruelty sob story just because i want an ESS. It is my preference just as it is yours to have any other type of dog.

I still endeavour to find one and when i can will have what i want with or without your help!

pantheman

[Snad]

First of all Pantheman I applaud you tenacity, in standing up for what you feel is right and secondly who would not love one of these sweet, caring, lovable dogs??

[dinos]

I agree with G.Man. I got my dog from a shelter and there are both good and bad points involved. For example, it only cost 45 dollars, and he was house trained from day one.

On the other hand, he also had a severe case of separation anxiety. So bad, in fact, that he tried to jump through windows after us, did physical damage to himself and constantly crapped in the house. This happens often in shelter dogs. There are plenty of websites that claim to have solutions for separation anxiety. None of them worked. Your real choices are to drug the dog, or crate it. In my case, he calmed down after a year and a half of being crated every time we left.

Getting a dog from a shelter sounds very compassionate and is probably the right thing to do in the long run. It can very well work in the long run, but nobody should be under the illusion that it's a trouble-free process.

Good luck, Pantheman.

[junemichael]

I will repeat myself again..... we all were suggesting that he should go to the shelters to see if there is a dog like what he wants first - like others have mentioned, there are also unwanted pedigree dogs at the shelters they just don't have papers. It is against breeders we have the problem because breeding just adds to the unwanted dog problem in Cyprus. There was no need for him to get so rude because of the suggestions from people!!!

[pantheman]

Junemichael,

you seem to be on another planet i'm sorry to say. Suggesting i get a fast car instead, is not an appropriate suggestion on where to get a dog.

If you care to read the posts more carefully you will see i only reacted to the member who made it.

I have read the suggestions, but to be honest, they didn't suggest i have a look at the resident pedigrees, but just what was in there. You are now back pedelling.

I have no wish to continue this thread, because its just getting silly now and turning into and arguement.

So, IF some could tell me where to get an ESS from, thank you very much i'll take a look. If not, please ignore my request no offence taken end of story. I don't have time for these little games people like to play.

Regards

Pantheman

[junemichael]

Suggesting you go to look for a Spaniel in a shelter is not a game, nor is a dogs life.

[QCat]

I can't believe what I am reading here. Ban the breeders and pedigree dogs and get a stray from someone's back yard instead? Do you honestly think it would solve a problem? For your information, breeders are not the ones contributing to the stray problem in Cyprus or anywhere else. In fact, elsewhere in the world a good breeder would insist that a client spays/neuters the dog or cat purchased, so that "unwanted" litters don't happen. If a person wants to get a spaniel - where's the crime in that?? We make conscious choices everytime we acquire something. We choose cars which harm the environment, we use plastic bags by the dozen every day, we produce enormous quantities of rubbish. Lets just start sending each other on a guilt trip! Yes, ban the dog breeders who preserve the breeds for their unique qualities. Let all the dogs mix and mate uncontrollably, and we'll achieve perfection.
Don't blame a person for wanting a specific breed of a dog. Blame a person who abandons the dog (of whatever breed), or allows his/her dog to breed outside the licenced breeding program. But don't blame all the faults on the person who wants a specific dog! What, spaniel puppies do not deserve a loving home??

[pantheman]

Qcat,

Welcome to the forum and thanks for putting it in such a nice way. At least i feel vindicated now. Cheers.

Hope to chat soon.

Pantheman

[QCat]

Thanks for the welcome, Pantheman. I was a lurker on this forum for ages until I finally registered... and lurked some more until I saw this puppy issue.

As for chatting - oh well, I don't think I'll be posting much (unless it's something that I am really passionate about) because I have my own forum to run. Nothing as advanced as this one, just a little local Qatar chit chat place, www.qatarblahblah.com

But I will be checking on Cyprus forum from time to time, it makes me feel closer to home