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When the time and place are right who knows what will happen, that is what really bothers you that people will start to take notice and question why we are being isolated in this day and age of freedom for all.

[andri_cy]

That goes both ways so dont go thinking anything is 100% good for you and bad for us or the other way around. Publicity can a lot of times hurt. The reason you are isolated is because you choose to be.

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We do not choose to stay isolated, GCs block any moves that will reduce our isolation because they want to keep us hostage so that they can force their demands on us. We do not want to be forced to recognize the "RoC", we only want the same rights you see fit for yourselves, if you have a pure GC state then why cant I have the a pure TC state, if you have direct flights then why cant I, obviously you see yourselves as the elite and want to whole island under your own control. Well until the day comes where you can prove that a united Cyprus is better than what we have today the island will stay as is. Feel free to do this whenever you wish...thats if you can.

[souroul]

We do not choose to stay isolated, GCs block any moves that will reduce our isolation because they want to keep us hostage so that they can force their demands on us. We do not want to be forced to recognize the "RoC", we only want the same rights you see fit for yourselves, if you have a pure GC state then why cant I have the a pure TC state, if you have direct flights then why cant I, obviously you see yourselves as the elite and want to whole island under your own control. Well until the day comes where you can prove that a united Cyprus is better than what we have today the island will stay as is. Feel free to do this whenever you wish...thats if you can.

hey there wiseguy, if iran got half of your country, would you go ahead and help them establish a country within your own? i dont think so. you can use GC ports cant you? more like, you are more than welcome to use all the legitimate ports of cyprus. go right ahead and stop moaning while you're at it.

and if you call that isolation, what about OUR isolation eh? last time i checked theres 200k people that cant even go home. now THATS isolation.

you keep pulling the isolation card, but you're not thinking outside the box.

[Pyrpolizer]

if you have a pure GC state then why cant I have the a pure TC state, if you have direct flights then why cant I, obviously you see yourselves as the elite and want to whole island under your own control.

You cannot have a state built by 90% on stolen GC properties.Period.

You can have direct flights through RoC’s Larnaca Airport, but you cannot have those in the illegal pseudo which is based on theft.

ALL GC refugees want their stolen properties back. As long as you have Turkey preventing us and killing us from getting our stolen properties back, you can shout and scream for your self isolation into illegality for eternity.

Well until the day comes where you can prove that a united Cyprus is better than what we have today the island will stay as is.

The proof will come after Cyprus is re-united. And I don’t feel any obligation whatsoever to prove it to you. It’s totally upto you to convince yourself.

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We do not choose to stay isolated, GCs block any moves that will reduce our isolation because they want to keep us hostage so that they can force their demands on us. We do not want to be forced to recognize the "RoC", we only want the same rights you see fit for yourselves, if you have a pure GC state then why cant I have the a pure TC state, if you have direct flights then why cant I, obviously you see yourselves as the elite and want to whole island under your own control. Well until the day comes where you can prove that a united Cyprus is better than what we have today the island will stay as is. Feel free to do this whenever you wish...thats if you can.

hey there wiseguy, if iran got half of your country, would you go ahead and help them establish a country within your own? i dont think so. you can use GC ports cant you? more like, you are more than welcome to use all the legitimate ports of cyprus. go right ahead and stop moaning while you're at it.

and if you call that isolation, what about OUR isolation eh? last time i checked theres 200k people that cant even go home. now THATS isolation.

you keep pulling the isolation card, but you're not thinking outside the box.

Iran does not jointly own half of my country but I do, I have rights over this island do you deny this? I have the right to live here in peace as well as you do.

Why is it that you feel you should have more rights than me? you can have ports run purely by GCs but this is not possible the other way around. The day you jointly run all your ports is the day I use the ports in the south and you can use the ones in the north, is that a deal? I don't think so somehow you want all ports for yourself that's the problem.

The refugees issue cuts both ways as long as mine cannot go back then yours cannot, at least you now have the option to reclaim your property through a commission how what is your administration label you if you were to apply what was it "traitor" that's right, but I have to come live in the GC south and then apply to your biased courts and wait years and years to get a decision.

The isolation card is something which the EU, UK, USA and many other countries acknowledge and are trying to reduce the effects of all they are finding is your arrogant objections to allowing us to have the same rights as yourselves, they will in time tire with your intransigence and take steps that you will hate but have to swallow.

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Pyrpolizer

You cannot have a state built by 90% on stolen GC properties.Period

There a very good examples called the USA, Australia and even New Zealand go some research. In 1000 years time no one will even remember that the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus was built on GC as well TC lands. It will all be history.

You can have direct flights through RoC’s Larnaca Airport, but you cannot have those in the illegal pseudo which is based on theft.

The day you agree to run them jointly is the day your argument holds water, for now that is your airport. We will have to put up the inconvenience of stopping over in Turkey for 4 5minutes no big deal but this isolation is imposed by the GCs and the world is now very much aware of this keep up the good work.

ALL GC refugees want their stolen properties back. As long as you have Turkey preventing us and killing us from getting our stolen properties back, you can shout and scream for your self isolation into illegality for eternity.

Killing you? aren't you exaggerating we have had the most peaceful 32 years in our history, proves what works and what doesn't even you can work that out.

The proof will come after Cyprus is re-united. And I don’t feel any obligation whatsoever to prove it to you. It’s totally upto you to convince yourself.

And how do you think you will get there? if TCs are not convinced that a united Cyprus is in their best interests and the last 3 years has taken us even further back than we have ever been in finding a solution.

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That goes both ways so dont go thinking anything is 100% good for you and bad for us or the other way around. Publicity can a lot of times hurt. The reason you are isolated is because you choose to be.

Your are right about the publicity but its time to fight back at the GC propaganda machine which ahs been able to manipulate world opinion due to the fact that the world did not know our side of the story now they will hear it on every level.

As for wanting to be isolated then ask the EU UN UK USA why they feel we are isolated im sure they wont agree wtih you.

[souroul]

We do not choose to stay isolated, GCs block any moves that will reduce our isolation because they want to keep us hostage so that they can force their demands on us. We do not want to be forced to recognize the "RoC", we only want the same rights you see fit for yourselves, if you have a pure GC state then why cant I have the a pure TC state, if you have direct flights then why cant I, obviously you see yourselves as the elite and want to whole island under your own control. Well until the day comes where you can prove that a united Cyprus is better than what we have today the island will stay as is. Feel free to do this whenever you wish...thats if you can.

hey there wiseguy, if iran got half of your country, would you go ahead and help them establish a country within your own? i dont think so. you can use GC ports cant you? more like, you are more than welcome to use all the legitimate ports of cyprus. go right ahead and stop moaning while you're at it.

and if you call that isolation, what about OUR isolation eh? last time i checked theres 200k people that cant even go home. now THATS isolation.

you keep pulling the isolation card, but you're not thinking outside the box.

Iran does not jointly own half of my country but I do, I have rights over this island do you deny this? I have the right to live here in peace as well as you do.

Why is it that you feel you should have more rights than me? you can have ports run purely by GCs but this is not possible the other way around. The day you jointly run all your ports is the day I use the ports in the south and you can use the ones in the north, is that a deal? I don't think so somehow you want all ports for yourself that's the problem.

The refugees issue cuts both ways as long as mine cannot go back then yours cannot, at least you now have the option to reclaim your property through a commission how what is your administration label you if you were to apply what was it "traitor" that's right, but I have to come live in the GC south and then apply to your biased courts and wait years and years to get a decision.

The isolation card is something which the EU, UK, USA and many other countries acknowledge and are trying to reduce the effects of all they are finding is your arrogant objections to allowing us to have the same rights as yourselves, they will in time tire with your intransigence and take steps that you will hate but have to swallow.

wwhaat? are you on crack or something? ok let me say it in fewer words for you to comprehend, and this time dont mumble about all sorts of irrelevant shit just because you're trying to make a point.

1) if somebody (like the kurds) occupied half your country, WOULD YOU IN ANY WAY LET THEM DECLARE THEMSELVES A COUNTRY WITHIN YOUR OWN?

Please answer YES OR NO

2) your isolation card is useless because our isolation is far greater. 200K REFUGES ISOLATED FROM GOING BACK TO THEIR HOMES. IS THAT EVEN COMPARABLE WITH YOUR SO CALLED ISOLATION?

Which one is isolated THE MOST?

1 word for each answer is more than enough. no buts no this no that.

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answer 1) YES
answer 2) TCs