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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:25 pm

Kifeas wrote:Bananiot, who has elevated anti-Papadopoulos propaganda into a science, knows well that the above quote is not correct but chooses not to disclose the fact and to correct the quote, because truth and fairness is not his concern. He instead chooses to let people in doubt as to whether the quote is correct or not, simply because he cares only to carry out anti-GC and anti-Papadopoulos propaganda on the assumption that it may be correct. He would have wished that the above quote would have been what Bakoyiannis has said, simply because this would have been in line with the Turkish thesis, but also because it allows him to promote his propaganda.

For the record (and Bananiot already knows this,) Bakoyiannis said that Turkey’s road to the EU passes through a re-united Cyprus, and that Turkey must recognize Cyprus (meaning the RoC) in order for its accession road to proceed. The above quote by viewpoint is taken from a misquoting (as usual) of a Turkish media source.


Wrong again, I got it from this link which is not Turkish;

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060918/ap_ ... /un_cyprus

She also quite rightly states the following;

"All these factors help, I hope, to make ... Turkey realize that its way to the European Union passes through Cyprus, passes through a united European Cyprus," she said.



Clever lady well done :wink:
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Postby Kifeas » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:48 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kifeas wrote:Bananiot, who has elevated anti-Papadopoulos propaganda into a science, knows well that the above quote is not correct but chooses not to disclose the fact and to correct the quote, because truth and fairness is not his concern. He instead chooses to let people in doubt as to whether the quote is correct or not, simply because he cares only to carry out anti-GC and anti-Papadopoulos propaganda on the assumption that it may be correct. He would have wished that the above quote would have been what Bakoyiannis has said, simply because this would have been in line with the Turkish thesis, but also because it allows him to promote his propaganda.

For the record (and Bananiot already knows this,) Bakoyiannis said that Turkey’s road to the EU passes through a re-united Cyprus, and that Turkey must recognize Cyprus (meaning the RoC) in order for its accession road to proceed. The above quote by viewpoint is taken from a misquoting (as usual) of a Turkish media source.


Wrong again, I got it from this link which is not Turkish;

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060918/ap_ ... /un_cyprus

She also quite rightly states the following;

"All these factors help, I hope, to make ... Turkey realize that its way to the European Union passes through Cyprus, passes through a united European Cyprus," she said.



Clever lady well done :wink:


VP, pleaseeee.......! Do us a favor!
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:04 pm

When did the Associated Press become Turkish?
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Postby Kifeas » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:12 pm

Viewpoint wrote:When did the Associated Press become Turkish?


VP, the above quote is a stupidly misconceived recap made by an ignorant journalist of what Bakoyiannis said, at the very top of the page you quoted. These were not Bakoyianni’s words, but the words of the journalist. What Bakoyiannis may have said is what follows within quotation marks, in the rest of the news report, and it doesn't justify the first recap paragraph of the journalist.
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Postby Alexis » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:16 pm

You have missed the point Alexis. If indeed the quote is correct, expect a barrage of insults agains Dora, from the Greek Cypriot bash patriots.


I may well have missed the direct point Bananiot but what I am talking about (and perhaps what Bakoyannis was also saying) concerns long term view of the situation in Cyprus. I don't give a monkey's whether Turkey recognises Cyprus now or when Cyprus is unified, I want Turkey out of the square so we can negotiate with Turkish Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots alone. If she decides in the meantime to recognise the RoC then fine but that does not in itself solve anything in Cyprus. Any plan to unite Cyprus should not in my view make reference to Turkey beyond the fact that her troops will be withdrawn from the island, the same applies to Greece and the UK. In the longterm Turkey's accession by definition is on condition that some form of solution is agreed in Cyprus, so it is in Turkey's interests to not interfere in negotiations and make her accession as smooth as possible.
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Postby elko » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:20 pm

Oh dear dear, I still remember the days when Greek Cypriot press and television boasted about their defences pre 1974. They were fond of playing repeatedly the song "Bekledim da gelmedim" meaning "I waited for you but you never came". Those who feel strong never boast.
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Postby andri_cy » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:20 pm

Surely you dont think Kifeas represents the press and television?
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