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[billcarmicheal]

I was stationed there from 61 to 64 so I think I have a little knowledge of what went on in that period and who were the perpetrators of most of the problems.

[Kifeas]

I was stationed there from 61 to 64 so I think I have a little knowledge of what went on in that period and who were the perpetrators of most of the problems.

Where have been stationed?

Do you know someone with the name Michael Carver?

[billcarmicheal]

I was 18 months at Nicosia and another 18 months at Episkopi and no I don't recall anyone by that name.

[RichardB]

I was stationed there from 61 to 64 so I think I have a little knowledge of what went on in that period and who were the perpetrators of most of the problems.

Where have been stationed?

Do you know someone with the name Michael Carver?

Hi kifeas Would I be right in thinking you are referring to the Ted Macey ' Martin Packard incident?

Well if I'm wrong I apologise but it was to say the least a 'very murky ' incident at the very least

[Kifeas]

I was stationed there from 61 to 64 so I think I have a little knowledge of what went on in that period and who were the perpetrators of most of the problems.

Where have been stationed?

Do you know someone with the name Michael Carver?

Hi kifeas Would I be right in thinking you are referring to the Ted Macey ' Martin Packard incident?

Well if I'm wrong I apologise but it was to say the least a 'very murky ' incident at the very least

No I am not referring to Macey, but to Sir Michael Carver. I think our friend should know who he was, if he was here in Cyprus then. Ted Macey, well he should have known that what he was doing was very dangerous. Don’t you think so?

[G.Man]

Prat-is You are the master of personal attacks, that is why you are only fit to moderate the classifieds...

Can you show me one occasion that I attacked you first? I am just replying to your clueless farts, but probably I shouldn't bother.

Everytime you respond to someones posts...

Mine wasnt an attack against you, I was merely informing, the person you attacked that you are not a global moderator and due to your high opinions, are only fit to moderate the classifieds..

Fact not attack...

Now, back on track, I notice you never responded to my point about there being some 10% of land that has been stolen and will hopefully be returned if you can ever stop hating and fighting...

[Alexis]

Now, back on track, I notice you never responded to my point about there being some 10% of land that has been stolen and will hopefully be returned if you can ever stop hating and fighting...

Not trying to wind you up GMan, but how on earth do you get to the figure of 10%? Is that as a percentage of the whole of Cyprus? Even then it seems a little low to me if we are to believe the figures for land ownership prior to 1963? The point I made earlier is that it is a fact that a large percentage of the privately owned land in what is now Northern Cyprus is owned by GC refugees. The fact remains that most GCs who once lived in the north are deprived of enjoyment of their land. Does this really amount to only 10% of TRNC? This is a big issue for the GC community for good reason.

[Alexis]

Not trying to wind you up GMan, but how on earth do you get to the figure of 10%? Is that as a percentage of the whole of Cyprus? Even then it seems a little low to me if we are to believe the figures for land ownership prior to 1963? The point I made earlier is that it is a fact that a large percentage of the privately owned land in what is now Northern Cyprus is owned by GC refugees. The fact remains that most GCs who once lived in the north are deprived of enjoyment of their land. Does this really amount to only 10% of TRNC? This is a big issue for the GC community for good reason.

hi GMan,

Just read your latest mail so apologies for not doing so before answering. So you are asserting that only 10% of the GC owned land has been developed? Firstly is this really true? I might have believed it a few years ago but now? Even if this is the case why do you not consider undeveloped land sold to foreigners/settlers (I categorise these as the same as they are not Cypriots although some settlers would undoubtedly qualify these days) as not stolen? Surely sometimes houses are sold to foreigners to be developed/refurbished? Also given that close to 80% of the residences in northern cyprus were GC owned prior to 1974 wouldn't you find it incredible if only TC displaced in 1964 and 1974 occupied these properties? I certainly would and I think you will find it is a fact these properties are far from a fair exchange when compared and contrasted to the land left behind by the displaced TCs in the south.

[RichardB]

I was stationed there from 61 to 64 so I think I have a little knowledge of what went on in that period and who were the perpetrators of most of the problems.

Where have been stationed?

Do you know someone with the name Michael Carver?

Hi kifeas Would I be right in thinking you are referring to the Ted Macey ' Martin Packard incident?

Well if I'm wrong I apologise but it was to say the least a 'very murky ' incident at the very least

No I am not referring to Macey, but to Sir Michael Carver. I think our friend should know who he was, if he was here in Cyprus then. Ted Macey, well he should have known that what he was doing was very dangerous. Don’t you think so?

To be honest Kifeas I know very little about this period in Cyprus history It rang a bell when you mentioned Sir Michael Carver

I'm sure I've read something (maybe in UK newspapers) fairly recently about Ted Macey and Martin Packard If I remember correctly Ted Macey 'disappeared and his body was never found but one of his former colleagues had come forward saying he had been supplying arms from British military sources to the Turkish Cypriots.

Martin Packard was apparently arrested on the orders of Michael Carver

As I said Its just something I remember reading about and it all seemed very 'under-cover ' so to speak

Maybe you could fill me in on this subject. Thanks

[Piratis]

Mine wasnt an attack against you, I was merely informing, the person you attacked that you are not a global moderator and due to your high opinions, are only fit to moderate the classifieds..

Fact not attack...

You are wrong. I moderate what I choose to moderate. I intentionally chose not to moderate this section since I often participate here and I didn't want anybody to believe that I would act in a biased way.

Therefore the fact is that I am not moderating this forum, not that I am not fit to do it. You should get your facts straight and I am not only talking about your attacks on me but for everything that you say on things that you have no clue about.

Your only motive it appears is that you justify those that commit crimes against us just because they are your compatriots and friends. I wonder if a foreigner was committing crimes against your own country if you would excuse him in the same way. I guess not.

In this thread I didn't attack anybody. I attack only those criminal scums, and I have every right to do it.