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[Kifeas]

Piratis,

You are not answering the question. This is the question, read carefully.
IMAGINE A SOLUTION WHERE ALL X GREEK LAND THAT HAS BEEN SOLD/BUILT ON STAYS AS IT IS. NOBODY IS ASKED TO VACATE. THIS SOLUTION HAS THE APPROVAL OF THE ROC, TRNC,GREECE, UK, EU, UN, USA, TURKEY ETC. Would you still brand these innocent people criminals?

A YES or NO will do.

No lectures on legality and human rights please, just answer the question.

Answer this with just one word. YES or NO.

Mrfromng,

This is the question, read carefully.
Imagine that someone has raped your sister. Then also imagine that the parliament of your country passes a law that legalises rape. Would you still brand this innocent rapist of your sister a rapist?

A Yes or No will do!
No lectures on morality, legality and human rights please, just answer the question!

Answer this with just one word. YES or NO.

PS: If you find the right answer, I promise you will win prize!

[Piratis]

Would you still brand these innocent people criminals?

Those people are criminals, not innocent. RoC will never accept any kind of solution that will legalize the illegalities of those criminals. Why should we? What the "solution" will solve if Greek Cypriots are not allowed to return to their homes???

[MR-from-NG]

For Gods sake YES or NO?

[Kifeas]

For Gods sake YES or NO?

For Gods sake YES or NO?

[MR-from-NG]

This is the question, read carefully.
Imagine that someone has raped your sister. Then also imagine that the parliament of your country passes a law that legalises rape. Would you still brand this innocent rapist of your sister a rapist?

What a load of stupid crap. Are you for real?

[Kifeas]

This is the question, read carefully.
IMAGINE A SOLUTION WHERE ALL X GREEK LAND THAT HAS BEEN SOLD/BUILT ON STAYS AS IT IS. NOBODY IS ASKED TO VACATE. THIS SOLUTION HAS THE APPROVAL OF THE ROC, TRNC,GREECE, UK, EU, UN, USA, TURKEY ETC. Would you still brand these innocent people criminals?

What a load of stupid crap. Are you for real?

[MR-from-NG]

Yeah, so stupid and crappy to you guys. But in the real world a very likely scenario. You will all one day bite a finger and all ten will ache. And guess what, I'll be laughing my head off for the likes of you people.


I care for innocent GC's, but you guys are the type that I wouldn't give the time of day.

[rolo]

it appears Piratis’s only solution is all tcs, brits, and settlers to leave and go back to pre 74.


How representative this view is amongst the Gc population as a whole?

What percentage of Gcs agree with Piratis.?

[billcarmicheal]

Piratis and Kifeas appear to want things to revert to exactly where they were prior to the 74 coup,conveniently ignoring the fact it was the GC's who changed the setup after the 1960 constitution.Between 1960 and 1974 they made no efforts to give TC's what they were entitled to,they wanted them to continue as second class citizens.Do they now really think that Turkey or the TC's will allow that situation to arise again,surely they are not that stupid.Piratis keeps on about illegalities but ignores the fact that as things stand at the moment everything going on in the TRNC whether he likes it or not is legal to them.Some day there will be a settlement but if they think Turkey will allow 180000 GC to march back to the north to get their property back then common sense tells me it wont happen,how many times are people going to make posts such as this before Piratas and Kifeas reaslise that there will have to be compromise on both sides,and no I don't have any axe to grind.

[Bill]

I really can't believe all this!!

I came across this site while "googling" with: "north cyprus" forum

My wife and I have been thinking about retiring in Cyprus for a peaceful time. If the fora I have seen in the last few days are anything to go by, we don't want to. We have no desire to spend our retirement in a country where back-stabbing and name-calling are the way of life.

I too found this site through googling "Cyprus forum" and have enjoyed reading the posts on many subjects even though some forum members are very nationalistic ( on both sides ) --

If you really want a peaceful life in retirement

why haven't you considered buying a home in the ROC -- where it's almost impossible to buy a house on disputed land ( there have been a couple of documented instances of illegal land/house sales but these have been dealt with in the courts) it makes sense when you contemplate buying a home abroad to make sure that what you have paid for is actually yours and will remain yours and is not disputed in any way

I bought a apartment 11 years ago and have now put a holding deposit on a house --- I will retire early next year -- move to Cyprus -- and as you stated have a wonderful and peaceful time .

I could in no way contemplate buying in the occupied part of Cyprus -- this for me would be too risky and immoral as a settlement has not been made and I would effectively be buying land still owned by someone else with the possible risk of having to vacate the property and lose everything .

Building has gone crazy in the north over the last couple of years and I'm sure this is a plot to ensure as much land as possible is occupied before a settlement is reached -- what good it will do I don't know ( I think the idea is that it will be more difficult to give back and remain with the occupier ) it seems to be the policy at the moment.

As I've mentioned in another post -- there are instances of Turkish Cypriot land being given to Greek Cypriots to build on in the last 3 years -- Piratis rubbished this but I can assure you it's true -- the criteria is that you must be a refugee or a descendant of one to qualify -- the property can't be sold as there are no title deeds --- I'm not talking about refugee housing built 30 years ago I mean big villas costing 70k to 100k to build only -- at least the ROC isn't giving out deeds or making land available for the tourists unlike the TRNC --- it's still going to give problems if a settlement is reached though .

I feel for the Greek Cypriots regarding the invasion and loss of property and land as much as I do for the Turkish Cypriots who suffered a similar displacement but on a much smaller scale---- I won't go into the politics but I will say that In my opinion neither side was completely innocent -- and of course neither where the UK , America , Greece and Turkey.

I have a lot of friends in Cyprus -- some closer to me than my own family -- I feel ( and hope ) that I will integrate into the Cypriot community when I retire there in 2007 ( I do tend to stay away from politics which helps) and not become one of those pompous old farts complaining about everything isn't as good as the UK --- why folk like that move here I'll never understand.

This could be a really good forum ( and Cyprus an excellent island ) if people stopped waving the flags of Greece and Turkey and instead waved the flag of Cypriots be they Turkish or Greek in origin.

Bill