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by **Viewpoint** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:02 pm

Peter with all due respects haven't you actually just given into what Piratis and people like him want? They are against anyone coming to the North to see for themselves that there is a country here recognized or not, with laws, police, MPs, Schools etc etc but above all there are human beings with concerns, desires and aspirations just like anywhere in the world only living under unnecessary isolation just so that they will want reunification. Your not visiting just adds to this isolation, come visit meet the real people on both sides of the divide make up your own mind about the whole of Cyprus I am sure you will be impressed, don't give up that easy and try to see beyond thug tactics which only come about from past wounds and not getting your own way all the time.(if you know what i mean). :wink:

by **Kikapu** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:49 pm

peterlsheldon wrote:To get such a response from a moderator of such a forum is disgusting and sadly outweighs your reassurances. His inflamatory remarks virtually brand me a criminal even though I have never even set foot on your beautiful, friendly(?) island. He virtually told me I would have no peace. His final sentence tries to go some way to pacifying me but, by putting the word "legally" in bold, he is again assuming that I would act illegally.

That was a disgraceful response to receive from a forum moderator. I am beginning to forget about my Cyprus plans. It seems there are divided countries and divided countries.

Good-bye.

Peterlsheldon,

Since you do not intend on staying or replying on the Forum, I'll keep this very short. I'm a Turkish Cypriot who left Cyprus in 1964, and I have had many "feuds" with Piratis over many different issues, but man, you sound like a Big Baby. What Piratis wrote to you was nothing to get excited over and you did. Perhaps it is best that you stay away from "Hot Potato" subjects, or else, Piratis will get the blame for your Heart Attack.!!!

by **MR-from-NG** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:37 pm

Petersheldon,

Piratis is just a bully. I wouldn't want to have anything to do with him either. If re-unification meant having the likes of Piratis as my neighbour I would vote NO every time.

I don't blame you for feeling the way you do about the forum.

by **Piratis** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:48 pm

His inflamatory remarks virtually brand me a criminal even though I have never even set foot on your beautiful, friendly(?) island. He virtually told me I would have no peace. His final sentence tries to go some way to pacifying me but, by putting the word "legally" in bold, he is again assuming that I would act illegally.

Can you tell me were I have branded you a criminal???

I have simply described you the situation in Cyprus. 9/10th of the properties sold to foreigners in the occupied areas are Greek Cypriot properties which are sold illegally. "Buying" such a property is a criminal offense. Committing a criminal offense against some people would not be the best way to achieve peace.

Therefore with my post I explained you that as long as you act legally you can have your peace in Cyprus, and the war that you see around would not affect you, but only those that committed a criminal offense.

These are the facts. If you don't like the facts don't blame me. I understand that the ideal for you would be to have peace + a nice super cheap villa, but as they say, if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. Cheap property in the occupied areas has many hidden costs, and the loss of peace for the "buyer" is one of them.

Since you were specifically looking for property in northern Cyprus, and since you were specifically looking for peace, I gave you the correct information to help you decide what you would do. Pay a lot more and get a property with a pre-1974 TC title deed, or don't buy in the occupied areas of Cyprus. Anything other than that would be incompatible with the peace you asked for.

by **rolo** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:18 pm

Piratis

If then an internationally recognised sollution is found will these "criminals" still be "criminals"?

by **Viewpoint** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:31 pm

peterlsheldon wrote:I really can't believe all this!!

I came across this site while "googling" with: "north cyprus" forum

The Google results came back to me with two entries for this site, with the following comments.

1) "Top article on north cyprus. At the Cyprus discussion forum you can chat and debate with others about anything relating to Cyprus and not only. You can discuss the Cyprus problem, ..."

2) "At the Cyprus discussion forum you can chat and debate with others about anything ... On the whole, we have a very happy British Community in North Cyprus. ..."

And you know why I went onto your site? because the first one I found was nothing but a mud-slinging arena! I thought that cannot be what Cyprus is about; there must be some reasonable rational people there.

And then I find this site!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just more bickering! Look at the previous comment: "it seems that you are reminded every day that YOU live in an unreconised illegal PUPPET state. How does it feel not knowing if you will have to vacate the land that your nice home is built on & return it to the legal greek cypriot owner ?"

Is that what passes for reasoned mature dialogue on the island? If it is, I would certainly never want to "chat and debate with others about anything relating to Cyprus" nor do I see any evidence of "On the whole, we have a very happy British Community in North Cyprus". Far from it!!!

My wife and I have been thinking about retiring in Cyprus for a peaceful time. If the fora I have seen in the last few days are anything to go by, we don't want to. We have no desire to spend our retirement in a country where back-stabbing and name-calling are the way of life.

Is anyone going to bother to redress the balance??????????

Piratis where did he state he was going to buy disputed land? you were very rude and abrupt addressing him in that manner? Your bitterness has tainted your ability to be civil when it comes to matter concerning the north. You should be ashamed for acting in such a manner it makes you no better than those that you accuse.

by **andri_cy** » Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:16 pm

I dont think Piratis called Peter a criminal personally. He just gave him the same answer he has been giving everyone that asks bout moving to Cyprus. Peter overreacted a little bit to Piratis' comments I have to agree with Kikapu. I also in a lot of ways agree with mrfromng on the basis of If I had to live next to nationalists as neoghbours I would also vote no in a heartbeat. But I think those people are a minority on both sides and to act like its a majority is wrong also. Anyway, Peter maybe Cyprus isnt for you, because there is the Cyprus problem and it wont go away until a solution is found. That might mean that sometimes conversations and debates can get heated. If you cannot handle that, maybe you need to move to Spain.