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[Viewpoint]

Pyrpolizer the minimum national wage in the north is 235 cyp and there are many many people who earn much more than this I can assure you. Do you know any TCs?, please visit their homes and see their standard of living first hand then you can talk. You are trying to average us out with the settlers who are mainly farmers and workers but you should really see why the average TCs is not to bothered about reunificaiton as he is eating drinking and in general having a good life without the fear of being dominated by GCs in his own country.

You make it so obvious that these are issues you do not want to see and find it difficult to swallow. We have come a long way from living with you guys and being forced into ghettos for fear of our lives, the realities stare you in the face yet to still continue not to see them, you would ratehr believe we live in squaller and will one succumb and beg for you to take us back on your terms, well you will have along wait becuase if those terms are not better than what we have today you will die waiting.

[Pyrpolizer]

The minimum is 235 pounds? What pounds YTL? Sterling what?
I know how much the salaries were before we opened the doors to our economy. I know very well how much the average salary was.

As for the high percentage of TC who lost their lives in accidents at the contruction sites (3 people in 3 years you said?) let me spin your little brain a bit:

a)it is because we hate them so much that we push them down the stairs of the construction sites to get killed?
b)Or is it because he hate them so much we don’t provide any safety measures for them, but we provide such only to the GCs and the Sri Lankas?
c)Or is it because those people are totally inexperienced and because they can no longer bear the unemployement in the occupied areas come to us and take whatever job is available i.e. plain labourers at construction sites?

Hade viewpoint, answer your multiple choice quiz correctly and I will tell Talat to give you bonus.

[Pyrpolizer]

Btw Viewpoint do you think the Tcs are blind and do not see what their pseudo is prividing them in relation to what the RoC would in case of reunification? Do you think they are so blind they don't see day in day out that they actually lose 75% of what they would earn?

Tell me VP how much do you rich paid for Airconditioning and Electricity bill last month?

[Pyrpolizer]

I paid 182 CYPRUS POUNDS. I always talk in terms of CY pounds not in sterling or Turkish Lira

[Kikapu]

I paid 182 CYPRUS POUNDS. I always talk in terms of CY pounds not in sterling or Turkish Lira

This was your last months' electricity bill.?? Do you run a restaurant from your home or what.?? If not, the whole neighbourhood must be stealing your electricity. !!

[sadik]

On the partition front Talat doent have to knwo you are doing a great job for him. Never in Denktas's time has so many TCs realized that partition is probably the best solution and this has nothing to do with Talat.

The Tcs were always for partition even from the 60s. Of course they did not like the enclaves partition, they only like the partition that includes taking away other peoples lands homes and properties i.e those of the GCs.
Denktash was clear on what type of partition he wanted. It took the TCs 30 whole years to realise the GCs will never accept. It will now take them another 30 years to realise that the disguised partition that Talat is seeking is even worse for the GCs and will never be accepted either. Good luck in waiting VP.

If the % of TCs who want partition increased, it simply proves to me that the TCs were always brainwashed to believe in dreams.

Pyrpolizer, you need to realize that most of the things that TCs did was as a reaction to the GCs. TCs could not even imagine saying "Cyprus is Turkish" until the GCs started to scream that "Cyprus is Greek". When GCs said Cyprus should be part of Greece, TCs reacted by saying Cyprus should be part of Turkey... Or British... So much for our nationalism. Even our nationalist slogans are immitations of yours, sometimes direct translations, including the motherland rhetoric. In the events leading to 1974, GCs were the stronger ones and TCs were mostly re-act-ing.

[laptanige]

Turkish Cypriot prime minister resigns, dissolving government

The Associated Press

September 11, 2006 NICOSIA, Cyprus

A leader of the breakaway Turkish Cypriot republic resigned as prime minister Monday — a move Turkish media said was aimed at averting a crisis over Ankara's bid to join the European Union.

Cyprus has been divided since 1974, when Turkey invaded the island following a short-lived coup staged by supporters of union with Greece.

The EU says Turkey must open its harbors and airports to the internationally recognized Greek Cypriot republic in the south, which joined the union in 2004, or risk its prospects of eventual membership.

Ferdi Sabit Soyer, the Turkish Cypriot premier, withdrew from the ruling coalition last week, accusing his partner, Serdar Denktash's Democrat Party, of pursuing ineffective policies.

A new coalition — created to work more closely with Ankara — would likely exclude Denktash, who had followed a more nationalist stance, opposing concessions to the south despite EU demands.

Soyer's coalition was formed more than a year ago with the goal of restarting UN-brokered reunification talks on the island so Turkish Cypriots could also benefit from EU membership.

That effort had failed, leaving Turkish Cypriots excluded from most EU benefits and suffering under a crippling international embargo.

Turkish Cyprus is a favorite national cause for Turks, and nationalists decry any concessions on the island as tantamount to treason. The breakaway state is recognized only by Turkey.

Turkey's Tercuman newspaper called the dissolution of the government a "dangerous step" toward the elimination of Turkish self-rule on the island.

"A new formation is on the way," the newspaper said. "There is no political party left to defend the entirety of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus."

[Natty]

On the partition front Talat doent have to knwo you are doing a great job for him. Never in Denktas's time has so many TCs realized that partition is probably the best solution and this has nothing to do with Talat.

The Tcs were always for partition even from the 60s. Of course they did not like the enclaves partition, they only like the partition that includes taking away other peoples lands homes and properties i.e those of the GCs.
Denktash was clear on what type of partition he wanted. It took the TCs 30 whole years to realise the GCs will never accept. It will now take them another 30 years to realise that the disguised partition that Talat is seeking is even worse for the GCs and will never be accepted either. Good luck in waiting VP.

If the % of TCs who want partition increased, it simply proves to me that the TCs were always brainwashed to believe in dreams.

Pyrpolizer, you need to realize that most of the things that TCs did was as a reaction to the GCs. TCs could not even imagine saying "Cyprus is Turkish" until the GCs started to scream that "Cyprus is Greek". When GCs said Cyprus should be part of Greece, TCs reacted by saying Cyprus should be part of Turkey... Or British... So much for our nationalism. Even our nationalist slogans are immitations of yours, sometimes direct translations, including the motherland rhetoric. In the events leading to 1974, GCs were the stronger ones and TCs were mostly re-act-ing.

Hey, I know I keep spouting on about how enosis was a 'legitimate form of self determination' , but it was. People try and make it sinister, like enosis equals the annihilation of the TC's or in fact the other numerical minorities within Cyprus....when the people were crying out for enosis, the majority wanted the whole of Cyprus to be part of Greece, including everyone....(although I'm not saying the idea was handled at all well...)..Partition just didn't make sense, and it would have definitely meant the violation of people's basic human rights..Although I can understand when you say it was a reaction...but I think there was also something else behind it...

Peace!

[Viewpoint]

Pyrpolizer

The minimum is 235 pounds? What pounds YTL? Sterling what?

you are getting real silly now if you took a few minutes to read my post properly you would have seen I particularly used CYP which is your currency code for the Cyprus pound.

I know how much the salaries were before we opened the doors to our economy. I know very well how much the average salary was.

So? close them if you wish it appears to be making you uncomfortable.

As for the high percentage of TC who lost their lives in accidents at the contruction sites (3 people in 3 years you said?) let me spin your little brain a bit:

a)it is because we hate them so much that we push them down the stairs of the construction sites to get killed?
b)Or is it because he hate them so much we don’t provide any safety measures for them, but we provide such only to the GCs and the Sri Lankas?
c)Or is it because those people are totally inexperienced and because they can no longer bear the unemployement in the occupied areas come to us and take whatever job is available i.e. plain labourers at construction sites?

b) you should provide adequate safety measure for all other wise that site should be shut down.

Btw Viewpoint do you think the Tcs are blind and do not see what their pseudo is prividing them in relation to what the RoC would in case of reunification? Do you think they are so blind they don't see day in day out that they actually lose 75% of what they would earn?

If thats the case then why arent they running south to live under the GC "RoC"?

Tell me VP how much do you rich paid for Airconditioning and Electricity bill last month?

Whats that got to do with anything???

[Bananiot]

Talat remains our only hope for a solution. True he does not have a free hand but he has demonstrated on many occasions that he prefers a united Cyprus rather than a partitioned Cyprus. This is more than I can say for many Greek Cypriots, who in their majority have now opted for a solution of two countries. Greek Cypriots were never like this. What has brought about this change of heart. Just two words: Papadopoulos - Christofias.