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[Pyrpolizer]

We do not have the Presidential System in TRNC, thus Talat's position as President is safe and sound.

We know that. Denktash was also "President" when the Anan Plan was discussed by Talat and Turkey in his absense. And then he naturally fell. So how the safe and sound positions in a puppet regime are I really don’t know.

[Pyrpolizer]

At each check point, the whole bus load would be searched with no hurry. Travelling from Lefka to Nicosia was a short distance, normally taking less than one hour but it took 5-6 hours to cover that journey. I was in England at the time but my elderly father used to tell me how he was made to stand under the strong sun and wait for his turn to be searched, time and time again because of numerous check points.

Didn’t your father explain you why all those check points existed? Were they to check simple plain peasants? Didn’t your father explain you that the state itself had to protect its own existence from those who were planning to create a state within a state, from those who were preparing the ground for a final Turkish Invasion and final Taksim or Division? All I can say yes, congratulations you finally made it. You stole the properties and land of 180,000 GCs, you ethnically cleansed them, and grabbed 37% of the area of our Country, which btw was the richest and most productive before 1974.

Turkish Cypriots ran for their lives, they took refuge in enclaves

When 120,000 people run for their lives you don’t get 850 dead in 14 years. You get 6,000 dead in one month. This is what happened to the GCs in 1974. I accept the Tcs were actually looking for a safer envioronment, as indeed been among those who were on one side fighting for Enosis and those on the other side fighting for taksim was not safe. So don’t tell me your side had nothing to do with your own suffering.

[elko]

Pyrpolizer,
I do not think you will understand but just for the benefit of other readers, in democracies presidents come and go with elections and that is what happened exactly to Denktash. Of course the same thing will one day happen to Talat but the presidential elections in TRNC is a few years away.
ismet

[elko]

Pyrpolizer,

Didn’t your father explain you why all those check points existed? Were they to check simple plain peasants? Didn’t your father explain you that the state itself had to protect its own existence from those who were planning to create a state within a state

It was downright harassment. Think of a better excuse but I am not hopeful. Many reasonable Greek Cypriots admit that this was a big mistake and apologize for it but as I said before, with people like you, Cyprus do not need any enemies.
ismet

[Pyrpolizer]

Harassment? Whatever you say man. You can even claim the search of every muslim entering the USA after 9/11 a downright harassment as well.

[Pyrpolizer]

Hey I am not one of the idiots who always agree with you to keep you happy.
Such friendships worth zero for me.

[Pyrpolizer]

Elko why dont you ask your father to tell you for how long those checkpoints existed, what period exactly, what the TCs have done in that period, and how many checkpoints existed in 1974 when Turkey invaded?

Why don’t you also ask him to tell you what chance a GC had to get out of a TC area alive in case he entered by mistake? Why don’t you aldso ask him, if any and I mean any, TC was actually prevented to travel anywhere he liked before Turkey invaded in 1974, without even one single checkpoint anywhere, and whether that TC should worry returning home alive?

[Viewpoint]

Elko why dont you ask your father to tell you for how long those checkpoints existed, what period exactly, what the TCs have done in that period, and how many checkpoints existed in 1974 when Turkey invaded?

Why don’t you also ask him to tell you what chance a GC had to get out of a TC area alive in case he entered by mistake? Why don’t you aldso ask him, if any and I mean any, TC was actually prevented to travel anywhere he liked before Turkey invaded in 1974, without even one single checkpoint anywhere, and whether that TC should worry returning home alive?

Ask your mother if TCs were allowed to use the same beaches as them or frequent the same streets as them, or how TCs were treated in government offices and whether their applications were processed the same as GCs. You are being very naive as the older TCs still remember the way they were treated by GCs and thats what still keeps us apart, mis-trust no one wants to go back to those dark days where GCs reigned alone and made TCs second class citizens, if it were any different you would have droves of TCs wanting to settle in the GC south.

[andri_cy]

Good thing not everyone on the TC side is like you Viewpoint. You are the opposite side of the same coin as you accuse many of the GC's of this forum of being. You are full of mis-trust and hatred and while there are people like you on either side of the spectrum no solution will be found because none of you nationalists(on either side) wants there to be a solution. You would rather craft strategies with foreigners from Turkey than try to find a solution with your compatriots. Same as you accuse the Gcs of doing with ENOSIS. So until you start dancing to a different tune you have no place accusing anyone of mistreatment, since I never heard you condone what is going on in the north, and you excuse it by calling it taking care of our properties. Pretty closed minded and one sided for a grown man with memories of what behavior like that results to I must say. Pretty immature and " I am taking my toys and going home"attitude.

[Viewpoint]

You are the ones acting like children, you have more sweeties thats not fair, cry cry cry, we want all the sweeties and you can look on attitude is typical of people like you.

I do nto hate anyone but I do definately mis-trust GCs and their true intentions. You are right I do not want a solution whereby I will be living in a GC state ruled by Gcs, Id rather have what I have today.

You have to change you tune for me to dance a different dance, for the time being we will conitinue to dance zeybek until you see the the light and understand that your current attitude will get you absoulutly nowhere.

We are not perfect in the north and we do many things incorrectly, the property issue beingone of them but when you are restritced in yourmovement you tend to move in the only direct left available, loosen those ties and demand we move in another direction.

Its exacly the past that we have learned from and therefore do not trust GCs until they can prove otherwise. Go ahead feel free to do so at anytime your wish, that if you can of course.