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Now that the Orams have won, what does the future hold ?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Piratis » Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:58 pm

You are oil we are water do they mix???

If you didn't want mix with us then why you came to our island in the first place?
Oh, I forgot, you came to enslave us, oppress us and exploit us. And maybe when you first came you had in mind to exterminate us or Turkify us, so you wouldn't have to mix with anybody? Well, unfortunately for you you couldn't do those things for ever, at some point they had to stop.

If you still don't want to mix with us, then don't. Give us back our land, respect the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus, and if you don't want to mix with us then go from where you came from. You have NO RIGHT to steal our land and violate the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus. Such actions from your part are illegal and criminal, and you should expect that sooner or later you will pay the price of your crimes.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:03 pm

Swashbuckler wrote:I dont think they worry too much about a settlement Lysi. With fascist ding-bats like yourself around there's as much chance of a settlement as you converting to Islam, taking up TRNC citizenship and calling yourself Fatma.


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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:11 pm

Piratis wrote:
You are oil we are water do they mix???

If you didn't want mix with us then why you came to our island in the first place?
Oh, I forgot, you came to enslave us, oppress us and exploit us. And maybe when you first came you had in mind to exterminate us or Turkify us, so you wouldn't have to mix with anybody? Well, unfortunately for you you couldn't do those things for ever, at some point they had to stop.

If you still don't want to mix with us, then don't. Give us back our land, respect the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus, and if you don't want to mix with us then go from where you came from. You have NO RIGHT to steal our land and violate the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus. Such actions from your part are illegal and criminal, and you should expect that sooner or later you will pay the price of your crimes.


Thats where you are wrong we have every right to protect and create a situation where we are not exposed to GC dominationand discrimination. We were partners on this island but unable to build a united "RoC" and live together, the only situation that has worked and has allowed us to live preacefully is the division. If you can persuade, convince or negotiate anything to show us that we would be better off mixing with you then feel free no one is stopping you.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:08 pm

Viewpoint. wrote: the only situation that has worked and has allowed us to live preacefully is the division. If you can persuade, convince or negotiate anything to show us that we would be better off mixing with you then feel free no one is stopping you.


Remember you had division in the enclaves as well. But you didn’t like it, very strange! Why do you like this sort of division? Come on Viewpoint be honest and spout it out. It’s relevant to our topic. :razz:
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Postby Piratis » Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:00 pm

Remember you had division in the enclaves as well. But you didn’t like it, very strange! Why do you like this sort of division?


He likes it because the 18% minority that he represents are illegally in control of the 37% of the land.

f you can persuade, convince or negotiate anything to show us that we would be better off mixing with you then feel free no one is stopping you.


How about to do the opposite. You to be ethnically cleansed from Cyprus, and then to talk to us and try to convince us to let you back. How about that?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:49 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint. wrote: the only situation that has worked and has allowed us to live preacefully is the division. If you can persuade, convince or negotiate anything to show us that we would be better off mixing with you then feel free no one is stopping you.


Remember you had division in the enclaves as well. But you didn’t like it, very strange! Why do you like this sort of division? Come on Viewpoint be honest and spout it out. It’s relevant to our topic. :razz:


The division in enclaves ghettos and the division we have to day are completely different. Those enclaves were also economically held hostage by our " GC compatriots" but to such an extreme degree that daily life was very poverty stricken and in time would have forced TCs out. Today those restrictions can only be forced upon us to a certain degree and our standard of living is good and improving all the time. With the second type of division we also enjoy self determaination and contribute to the development of the north. The secuirty aspect is very important to many TCs, not living under constant GC military threat or inter communal violence makes division as very attractive choice. The likelihood of being demoted to a second class citizenship and discriminated against in your own country is another strong reason why division is preferred. Are these enough reasons Pyrpolizer?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:53 pm

Piratis wrote:
Remember you had division in the enclaves as well. But you didn’t like it, very strange! Why do you like this sort of division?


He likes it because the 18% minority that he represents are illegally in control of the 37% of the land.

f you can persuade, convince or negotiate anything to show us that we would be better off mixing with you then feel free no one is stopping you.


How about to do the opposite. You to be ethnically cleansed from Cyprus, and then to talk to us and try to convince us to let you back. How about that?



But I did not ethnical cleanse you from Cyprus. We couldnt build a united Cyprus peacefully and therefore split and have been living a peaceful existence every since. You are the ones who have problems with the current situation, then its up to you to prove we would be better of with you than without you, feel free Piratis, prove me wrong.. can you???
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Postby Piratis » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:04 pm

The occupation of Cyprus by Turkey is illegal, your pseudo state is illegal. Turkey has to respect the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus and withdrew her troops. These are facts denied only by some Turks. So what else is there for me to prove? It is already proven but you just deny the facts and close your eyes so you can continue with your illegalities and crimes against us.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:14 pm

Piratis we have discussed this many times before. The bottom line is until a time we can agree a solution that both sides can commit to the current situation will continue. So what do you think you have to do? other than wait for the swing in power.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:18 pm

The bottom line is that you will not agree for a fair solution since your aim is to gain on our expense by using the power of Turkey. Therefore we can not solve the Cyprus problem until the balance of power changes. What we can do until then is to make sure that you lose from this conflict as well.
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