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Postby Issy1956 » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:05 pm

Piratis,
You forgot the bit were the TC's delibrately made the 1960 constitution unworkable, refused to accept the entirely reasonable 13 amendments to the constitution to remove their rights, started the fighting 1964 and withdrew to their enclaves where 18 % of the population could live in 3% of the land in squalor for 11 years to await the long planned Turkish invasion to divide the island.
Get it right for god sake.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:37 pm

Piratis,
You forgot the bit were the TC's delibrately made the 1960 constitution unworkable, refused to accept the entirely reasonable 13 amendments to the constitution to remove their rights, started the fighting 1964 and withdrew to their enclaves where 18 % of the population could live in 3% of the land in squalor for 11 years to await the long planned Turkish invasion to divide the island.


You are right, TC did try to use their veto powers to bring RoC into a deadlock, and they refused to even consider any amendments that would make the constitution of Cyprus much closer to what exists to all other countries in the world.

Regarding the intercommunal fight, and TCs going to enclaves etc, you seem to forget that the this was a two way conflict were both sides had about the same amount of casualties.

TCs came out of the enclaves in 1968. So it was 5 years, not 11. So how is that related with the invasion of 1974? The invasion had used the coup as an excuse, not anything else.

So why do you bring unrelated things of the past to excuse what happened in 1974? To try to present GCs as the evils that have to be exterminated by the peace loving Turks? To blame GCs when in fact the Turks were the ones who committed the crimes 99% of the time, and they continue to do so today?
Here is a thread were I talk about this in detail:
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=5284
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Postby MR-from-NG » Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:54 am

Please all members, newcomers. Piratis is a compulsive liar and has selective memory. This man is obviously suffering some sort of disorder. He is not to be taken seriously.
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Postby Sotos » Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:59 am

Please all members, newcomers. Piratis is a compulsive liar and has selective memory. This man is obviously suffering some sort of disorder. He is not to be taken seriously.


Translation: "Please all members, newcomers. Piratis is telling the truth and I have no arguments. I can only swear at him. So please close your eyes to the truth" ;)
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:59 am

Viewpoint wrote: You had a chance in 1960 to prove you could live under the above principles, you messed up big time. Now you want to retunr to a situation where you can use your numerical superiority to reduce our community to the level of just another minority group in our own country. Well if we are ever to mix again we want guarantees that will make sure you do not attempt to dominate, control and discriminates against TCs. We do not trust GC administered human rights and democracy...noway.


Typical abslolutely typical Turkish logic. In here we tend to stress the similarities between Cypriots but is seems nobody ever traced the illogical Turkish thinking that still prevails in most TC minds.

This would be an example of the above illogical thinking expressed by a GC

You had a chance in 1960 to prove you could live under the above principles, you messed up big time. You wanted partition. Its all your fault. Now you want to have your own state once again under disguised partition. Well if we are ever to mix again we want guarantees that will make sure you do not attempt to partition the island, excercise any control over us and deprive our rights because we are the majority.You have to return to your own living space, not living in our homes and we want guarantees you will never do what you did in 1974 again. We do not trust you to have anything more that minority rights, we do not trust the TC administered human rights and democracy...noway.

Typical Turkish thinking. You prove me I will be fully satisfied, you do this, you do that, you solve the problem, you get fucked, you satisfy ME. And stop talking. Do as I say!


I suggest everybody to visit Turkey. The country of the illogical, of madness, of schizophrenia.
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Postby Kifeas » Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:05 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: You had a chance in 1960 to prove you could live under the above principles, you messed up big time. Now you want to retunr to a situation where you can use your numerical superiority to reduce our community to the level of just another minority group in our own country. Well if we are ever to mix again we want guarantees that will make sure you do not attempt to dominate, control and discriminates against TCs. We do not trust GC administered human rights and democracy...noway.


Typical abslolutely typical Turkish logic. In here we tend to stress the similarities between Cypriots but is seems nobody ever traced the illogical Turkish thinking that still prevails in most TC minds.

This would be an example of the above illogical thinking expressed by a GC

You had a chance in 1960 to prove you could live under the above principles, you messed up big time. You wanted partition. Its all your fault. Now you want to have your own state once again under disguised partition. Well if we are ever to mix again we want guarantees that will make sure you do not attempt to partition the island, excercise any control over us and deprive our rights because we are the majority.You have to return to your own living space, not living in our homes and we want guarantees you will never do what you did in 1974 again. We do not trust you to have anything more that minority rights, we do not trust the TC administered human rights and democracy...noway.

Typical Turkish thinking. You prove me I will be fully satisfied, you do this, you do that, you solve the problem, you get fucked, you satisfy ME. And stop talking. Do as I say!




Precisely!

And because they above words would only come out of a GC that doesn't want a solution, this proves Viewpoint's real agenda! Viewpoint, by regurgitating all the above claims, fully in line with uncle Rauf bey's rhetoric, proves that s/he doesn't really want a solution.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:08 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: You had a chance in 1960 to prove you could live under the above principles, you messed up big time. Now you want to retunr to a situation where you can use your numerical superiority to reduce our community to the level of just another minority group in our own country. Well if we are ever to mix again we want guarantees that will make sure you do not attempt to dominate, control and discriminates against TCs. We do not trust GC administered human rights and democracy...noway.


Typical abslolutely typical Turkish logic. In here we tend to stress the similarities between Cypriots but is seems nobody ever traced the illogical Turkish thinking that still prevails in most TC minds.

This would be an example of the above illogical thinking expressed by a GC

You had a chance in 1960 to prove you could live under the above principles, you messed up big time. You wanted partition. Its all your fault. Now you want to have your own state once again under disguised partition. Well if we are ever to mix again we want guarantees that will make sure you do not attempt to partition the island, excercise any control over us and deprive our rights because we are the majority.You have to return to your own living space, not living in our homes and we want guarantees you will never do what you did in 1974 again. We do not trust you to have anything more that minority rights, we do not trust the TC administered human rights and democracy...noway.

Typical Turkish thinking. You prove me I will be fully satisfied, you do this, you do that, you solve the problem, you get fucked, you satisfy ME. And stop talking. Do as I say!


I suggest everybody to visit Turkey. The country of the illogical, of madness, of schizophrenia.


Feel free to visit whenever you wish I am pretty certain you will be pleasently suprised and all the years of brianwashing may take a shock as you will see they are no different from yourselves.

As for your attempt to ridicule and demote my concerns is typical GC idiotic mentality, sweep it under the carpet it will go away, or ignore it it will get better. Well it dont work that way you have to prove and encourage us that living in a united Cyprus with you is better than what we have today. If we were convinced we should live together we would be trying to give you all the details and proof that would help you make this decision and take the steps necessary.
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Postby perecles » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:58 pm

It means greek cypriots who lost there land should get off there arses and go across to the OCCUPIED AREAS and confront those greedy thieving scumbags who have bought homes built on STOLEN GREEK CYPRIOT LAND.
Also CONFRONT those greedy ESTATE AGENTS in BRITAIN & elsewhere who are dealing in stolen greek cypriot land.
DONT FORGET TO TAKE YOUR CAN OF SPRAY PAINT WHEN YOU VIST THESE GREEDY PEOPLE.


Lysi where do you live? I have a 5lt tin of paint I want to send you!!
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:59 pm

Viewpoint wrote: Feel free to visit whenever you wish


I just did. It’s the country of the schizophrenics as I described it. By the way they don't like you hich! Obviously because you are not totally completely paranoid like them
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:44 pm

viewpoint wrote: Well it dont work that way you have to prove and encourage us that living in a united Cyprus with you is better than what we have today. If we were convinced we should live together we would be trying to give you all the details and proof that would help you make this decision and take the steps necessary.


Shit, after what I said you have the nerve to repeat it?
I don’t have to prove anything either to you or to anyone else. It makes me mad even hearing it. If you want me to be as paranoid and schizohrenic as your nephews in Turkey with whom you obviously don’t differ much: YOU PROVE IT TO ME. YOU SATISFY ME. AND STOP TALKING. DO AS I SAY!
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