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Orams Victory

Postby eracles » Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:09 pm

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Postby pantheman » Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:17 pm

Well, Well, that was a statement of the obvious.

If anyone actually thought that a british court would find against british people with the british prime ministers wife defending then they need their head examined.

There was no way on this planet the the GC Apostolides was gonna have any judgement in his favour, he must be more stupid than he looks, even to have thought so.

The cyprus problem is a british made one and there was no way the british courts were going to rule against themsleves now, were they ?

Sadly, for the many GC who were hoping for some justice, dream on.

This is a sad day for cyprus and the GC nation.

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Postby chedda » Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:33 pm

I cannot say that i am not a little dissapointed. However the chaos concerning this case has set a precedent and brought matters to the public eye. However this is a small sacrifice in the bigger game being played. If the labour goverment is pushing for Turkey to join the EU still then things may still play out over time. The current difficulties are heightened by the EU differences which if Turkey joins will no longer exist. So now further developments and investment will be given the green light causing a surge in building and influx of British & European citizens. This will in turn raise prices ,congestion and urban sprawl all of which are detrimental. So the larger battle continues no doubt . If Turkey joins Europe then the law will protect the original land owners again . In the back of my mind has always been the thought that Turkey was holding onto North Cyprus for bargaining power to aid ascension .
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Postby eracles » Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:41 pm

No doubt the international media will condone this collective punishment of Greek Cypriots for having voted 'no' in the 2004 referendum.
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:45 pm

Why don’t you all just wait to read the actual ruling before rushing to all these comments based on claims in the media by the Oram’s side? My information says that the British court had just declared itself incompetent to enforce the ruling of the Cypriot court against the Orams, even though in the same ruling it fully adopts the view that the building by Orams in Apostolides land is an illegal act. This is a provisional first degree decision, upon which an appeal was already been filed today, only to be decided in a few months at a higher level in the UK.
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Postby reportfromcyprus » Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:50 pm

Agree with you Kifeas. The judgement hasn't been clearly understood yet.
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Postby Solveit » Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:04 pm

Kifeas may be correct, but the case was not about the legality or otherwise of Orams building on Apostolides land, but about whether the ROC judgement is 'enforcable' in the UK or not.
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Postby EUropean666 » Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:08 pm

What about a decision from another court, lets say in Greece. Will the UK respect another member state's decision or not? It still has a long road ahead. Regarding BBC it is not on the headlines but on the local news and Uk news not on EU news. This means that BBC waits for more news.

There are other ways to go like issuing a police warrant or even pan EUropean police warrant. What Uk will do?
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:27 pm

Solveit wrote:Kifeas may be correct, but the case was not about the legality or otherwise of Orams building on Apostolides land, but about whether the ROC judgement is 'enforcable' in the UK or not.


So you are basically celebrating the fact that the (first degree) court declared it self unqualified to enforce the punishment of what -not only or just the RoC court found, but also the British high court itself in the same ruling found to be an illegality. In other words you are not celebrating your vindication in a natural or in a moral sense, but you instead celebrate your "achievement" to (temporarily) get away with your illegalities! This is what you do, and you know what person it makes you to be, i.e. ... a clown or ...a monkey! Or better a karagiozis! Get lost solveit!
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Postby EUropean666 » Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:31 pm

EU courts will get the final decision.
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