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Orams Victory

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Kifeas » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:45 am

Solveit, if you think that the fact that you came here to celebrate the (temporary) “getting away” with illegalities that the Orams and the other crooks in the north think they “secured” through a politically motivated unethical decision by a British court, is any less abusive, provogative and insulting than I have been to you, then I live it to the judgment of the rest of the forum members to determine. In my book, you are more than insulting, and you should seriously question the very moral substance of your ideas, desires and actions. I have nothing more to say to you, more importantly not anything to discuss with you further.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:11 pm

Kifeas do you realize you are running out of people to talk to? anyone who challenges your argument's or has the audacity to exhibit a viewpoint that differs from yours is dismissed like a school teacher dismissing his pupil.
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Postby doglover » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:05 pm

:( I was very sad to hear about this. I think it's morally wrong to buy land, or build properties on land that was previously owned by a GC. So I'm not with the Orams on this one. I feel very sorry for Apostolides. IF I were to buy property on the Northern side, (and I wouldn't) I would do my homework first to ensure that the property I was buying did not belong to a Greek Cypriot prior to the war. Unfortunately it is legal... but it's morally wrong and it's a shame people don't feel the same way when they're shopping around for their house in the sun. The Greek government is at fault here. They were the ones that 'caused the invasion, because the military junter who at the time were the legitimate government of Greece, decided that they wanted to take over Cyprus, which resulted in the coup in Cyprus, where Greek Cypriot sympathizers of the junter in Greece, attempted to over throw the government and put a puppet president in place, named Nikos Sampson.

The Turkish Cypriots were naturally worried about this situation, and asked the Turkish government for help to protect their interests here in Cyprus. So they invaded.

So I strongly believe that the Greek government (Greece) should pick up the bill for this. They should compensate everybody that has lost property, as a result of this, both Greek Cypriots, and Turkish Cypriots.
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Postby EUropean666 » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:09 pm

For once more,, the coup have failed. Turkish army was prepared months ago to invade cyprus, it didnt do this to protect anyone, it is just on their nature to solve probs using the army and fear. that makes the difference from a european country.

Since the coup failed long before the turkish invasion.

also..sice when a junta is a legitimate government? They were acting on behalf of Britain and USA.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:16 pm

The coup was just the last straw of build up from the intial troubles of 1963. The enosis dream fuelled division and hidden agendas, if you play with fire you get burnt...
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:38 pm

[quote="EUropean666"..sice when a junta is a legitimate government? They were acting on behalf of Britain and USA.[/quote]

I need to jump in here, because I have heard this excuse for million times now, that it was not the fault of the Junta, but the Americans and the British. I'm not saying they were not involved, but the excuse is that, the Junta did not have a choice to make, sounds like a man being found out by his wife that he was "porking" another woman, and then tells his wife, "but it wasn't my fault darling. If she did not get undress and did not open her legs for me, I would have never dreamt of having sex with her. Honestly dear, I had nothing to gain by screwing her".

Does this not sound like the excuse people make for the Junta. They had a lot to gain, by trying to "screw" the Cypriots. So, please, no more excuses.
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Postby EUropean666 » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:49 pm

Viewpoint wrote:The coup was just the last straw of build up from the intial troubles of 1963. The enosis dream fuelled division and hidden agendas, if you play with fire you get burnt...



so stop using the coup as an excuse and find the real excuse which is on few extremists from both sides.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:50 pm

Kifeas wrote:
doglover wrote::( I was very sad to hear about this. I think it's morally wrong to buy land, or build properties on land that was previously owned by a GC. So I'm not with the Orams on this one. I feel very sorry for Apostolides. IF I were to buy property on the Northern side, (and I wouldn't) I would do my homework first to ensure that the property I was buying did not belong to a Greek Cypriot prior to the war. Unfortunately it is legal... but it's morally wrong and it's a shame people don't feel the same way when they're shopping around for their house in the sun. The Greek government is at fault here. They were the ones that 'caused the invasion, because the military junter who at the time were the legitimate government of Greece, decided that they wanted to take over Cyprus, which resulted in the coup in Cyprus, where Greek Cypriot sympathizers of the junter in Greece, attempted to over throw the government and put a puppet president in place, named Nikos Sampson.

The Turkish Cypriots were naturally worried about this situation, and asked the Turkish government for help to protect their interests here in Cyprus. So they invaded.

So I strongly believe that the Greek government (Greece) should pick up the bill for this. They should compensate everybody that has lost property, as a result of this, both Greek Cypriots, and Turkish Cypriots.


Dog lover, I believe it is better if you just continue making love with your dog, and live us alone and free from your foolish and ignorant claims above! You do not have a word to say about the country that ethnically cleansed 200,000 GCs from the ancestral properties, homes and villages, and usurped all their properties in a pirate act of aggression and theft, which is Turkey, and you come here to tell us that Greece should pick up the bill. Why aren’t the findings of the European Court of Human Rights, the same like yours, but instead they found Turkey the guilty gross violator of Cypriot’s human rights. Keep doing what you know best to do, which is to make love with your dogs. Are they male or female dogs by the way, and do you also do it doggy style sometimes? Get lost idiot!


another one bites the dust man at this rate you will have no one to chat to but yourself. Hey that may be a good thing :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby reportfromcyprus » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:52 pm

He'll end up beating himself to death, VP.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:53 pm

EUropean666 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The coup was just the last straw of build up from the intial troubles of 1963. The enosis dream fuelled division and hidden agendas, if you play with fire you get burnt...



so stop using the coup as an excuse and find the real excuse which is on few extremists from both sides.


so your enosis dream was not your goal? eoka killed innocent people becuase they fel like it?? wake up man we messed up big time thats why we are divided today. It didnt just drop from the sky one sunny morning.
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