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[Simon]

What exactly are you trying to say? It is ok because it is in our nature? Muhammad had sex with a 9 year-old girl and had married her when she was 6!. I couldn't care less what the law says, unless you are sick in the head, you would not want to have sex with a 9 year-old girl. This is not natural.

Certainly not for me anyway.

[Kikapu]

So if the law changed and it was allowed are you saying that your or even the majority of men would like to have sex with a 13 year old? You are so wrong. I happily admitted that i have a desire to cheat and have many partners but sex with a 13 year old just doesnt appeal. Even the legal age of 16 doesnt appeal, its just such a giggly annoying age for girls. [/color]

You're a mature man with good selection in women, as most men are. What if you were on a deserted island with a 14 year old girl, and you were never coming back to civilization again. Will you still wait until she turns 19.??

[Kikapu]

What exactly are you trying to say? It is ok because it is in our nature? Muhammad had sex with a 9 year-old girl and had married her when she was 6!. I couldn't care less what the law says, unless you are sick in the head, you would not want to have sex with a 9 year-old girl. This is not natural.

Certainly not for me anyway.

No one is condoning your above statement. I'm talking about, when can the sexes mate together, and that is defined by nature. Upon reaching puberty, laws of nature takes over. The fact that Modern World has made it's own rules on when the sexes should mate, does not have any bearing on what has been the rule, since, beginning of time.

[Simon]

Even under nature, 6 and 9 years old is far, far too young, for most sane males at least. If anybody finds a 6 year-old sexually attractive, this is not natural and they need help. A 6 year-old is nowhere near puberty. 9 year-olds the majority of the time are nowhere near puberty, and even if they were, they would literally have only just started.

I'm sorry but this is not about nature. This is perverted. Maybe you could use this argument if we are talking about 14, 15 or 16 year-olds, because most of them would have reached puberty and be maturing - but NOT 6 and 9 year-olds!

[Kikapu]

Even under nature, 6 and 9 years old is far, far too young, for most sane males at least. If anybody finds a 6 year-old sexually attractive, this is not natural and they need help. A 6 year-old is nowhere near puberty. 9 year-olds the majority of the time are nowhere near puberty, and even if they were, they would literally have only just started.

I'm sorry but this is not about nature. This is perverted. Maybe you could use this argument if we are talking about 14, 15 or 16 year-olds, because most of them would have reached puberty and be maturing - but NOT 6 and 9 year-olds!

6 or 9 years do not reach puberty. I'm talking about those usually over 13 or so.

[Simon]

I was talking about 6 and 9 years old because the thread is about Muhammad. The fact that Muhammad did things like this is one of the reasons why I can never believe in his Qu'ran.

If your argument is only referring to those over 13, then yes, it makes more sense.