Kikapu wrote:Pyrpolizer,
Since the subject is on Turkeys entry to EU..or NOT, may ask you a question that will require some deep thinking to come up with the answer, and if anyone can do it, you can...I really mean that. So, here's the question. Had there been no 1963 and 1974 invasion, and the 1960 Constitution was respected today, and that Cyprus has already been in the EU since 2004, would the ROC and Greece help Turkey to enter EU, or would they stop Turkeys accession.? I think is the latter, since the ROC is putting "speed bumps" in Turkeys path, with the full knowledge, that it may cause Cyprus to be partitioned. Can you imagine, if there were no such threats of losing any part of Cyprus. What would have been the incentive to help Turkey at all. That's why I believe, that Turkey will never be accepted into the EU, but will get all the benefits regardless, and they will get to partitioned part of Cyprus at the same time. I'm sorry to say this, but, it may be pointless arguing with "viewpoint" on this issue, because it is possible, that the fate of Cyprus had already had been cast since 1960 and the later events. I hope I'm wrong.
Kikabu, Cyprus, as well as Greece, does not object Turkey’s accession to the EU. Officially they do favor it, and they have been extremely helpful already! Cyprus has already helped Turkey to obtain an accession date, and later for the accession negotiations to begin. There is no other country in its right senses that would have done something similar, while having 37% of its de jure sovereign territory under occupation and 1/3 of its citizen population’s human rights to continue to be violated so blatantly for 32 years now by another country, and this country to have so far done what Cyprus did in the case of Turkey’s EU accession. Any other EU member country would have already vetoed Turkey’s accession date to be granted, given the above circumstances, because the issue is a matter of paramount principle. Yet, Cyprus has not done it so far! However, Turkey also needs to help itself! Turkey was obliged, and did undertake certain unavoidable commitments towards the EU, which have to do with the normalization of its relations with Cyprus, a country member of the club which it aims to join as an equal member, and a country (one of the 25) with which Turkey has to negotiate in order to accede the club.
The oxymoron and the paradoxical is not for Cyprus to veto Turkey any time in the future, should Turkey doesn’t move towards the direction of normalizing its relations with it, but rather the opposite! Cyprus (and Greece) does not want to veto Turkey! However, without Turkey doing anything towards its own very logical and natural commitments, Cyprus will simply have no other option but to veto and cancel Turkey’s accession process, any time during its duration. You cannot insist that you want to negotiate with someone, in order to join the club of which s/he is a member, while at the same time you insist claiming that you do not want, you do not aim, and you are not going to recognize s/he very existence! It is absurd, illogical and even provocatively insulting! Furthermore, even if Cyprus decides to swallow the pill not to veto and block Turkey’s entire accession process, how on earth is it going to allow the opening and closing of many of the negotiating chapters that relate with human rights and /or trade relations, if the very country (Turkey) is violating the rights not just of its own people, but more so those (people) of the country (Cyprus) which is supposed to evaluate and approve Turkey’s readiness to open, examine and close the relevant EU negotiating chapters? If we ever accidentally elect a masochist like Bananiot as our president, perhaps this might be possible, yet; also the Cypriot people through their representatives (parliament) will eventually have to decide upon the issue of Turkey’s final accession. In this case, how the people of Cyprus can possibly allow a country that continues to occupy their own country and violate their human rights, accede the club, as an equal to their country partner? Don’t you think that this is something more than just impossible?
In a nutshell, it is Turkey’s turn to begin helping itself! Whatever Cyprus could have done to help Turkey, it has already done it! Not one else in its place would have done anything near that much! Turkey has to first decide if it indeed seriously wants to ever accede the EU, or if it prefers instead to continue occupying Cyprus and not to want and aim in recognizing it and normalizing its relations with it! The two cannot possible occur together and at the same time! It is either the one or the other, and the decision lies on Turkey alone! If it chooses the former (to negotiate and eventually accede the EU one day,) it has to decide to get rid of all of its very own illegitimate red lines in relation to Cyprus, now and after a solution, normalize its relations with it as soon as possible, and then start working with the TC community in facilitating the ground for a solution, as soon as possible! Only in this way there is ground for Cyprus (and Greece) to help Turkey any further in its EU ambitions, because in principle we do want Turkey to accede the EU! We do not want to veto Turkey for the sake of doing so, or in order to take revenge for the past! If we will have to do it, it will be done on the basis of what Turkey does or does not do, or want to do at present! It is all up to Turkey at this stage!
What we (and most in the EU) are asking from Turkey to do, is purely and perfectly legitimate and reasonable! What Turkey (and some in the EU) would presumably want us to do, is totally illegitimate, absurd, oxymoron and paradoxical! Cyprus may or may not decide to give a third chance to Turkey in coming December’s EU Council. However, in the case that it does, it will only be done upon the introduction and adoption of even stricter conditions, but more importantly it will definatelly be the last chance of an additional 6 month grace period, until the next EU Council.
