hunter wrote:Husband??
No thanx love life to much for that!!!
Just need a free cook...............
There's no such thing as "free lunch"!!!
Turkey in the EU? At this rate, dream on.....
by G.Man » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:19 pm
reportfromcyprus wrote:G.Man, I see your point. I believe that it's called 's&^@t stirring', something the media is very good at.
They win either way, if they take something out of context and it scares people, they'll have to buy the paper or watch the channel. But, they weren't inaccurate, just slanted.
Yup thats my point...
But it has a massive impact on what people think...
I agree the turkey situation is completely of their own making, and they need to prove their intentions are serious if they want into the EU which is a bigger benefit to them than it is for the rest of the EU thats for sure...
Hopefully they will make some changes soon, or else they will probably lose the chance to ever be taken seriously in europe...
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by Pyrpolizer » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:40 pm
Funny I thought I read a free cock. Then looked at it gain it was cook 
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by miltiades » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:05 pm
VIEWPOINT WROTE :
"""Very commendable statements for story books but the reality again stares you in the face that we have been unable to solve our problem for over 46 years. The will is missing on both sides and as things continue as they are the TC north will visit Pakistan today and who knows even France tomorrow, the GC south will continue to lodge complaints as normal nothing new there, did you hear they lodged a complaint with the international body for flies, stating they were flying into the unknown TRNC territory without "RoC" permission, that's how comical they have become. """
VP you sound entirely the type of Cypriot that has resigned to the idea of partition of our island. However what surprises me is, that for an intelligent person you fail miserably to comprehend realities as they are not as you and the practitionists wish them to be.
Your views are reminiscent of a tin pot dictator somewhere in Africa who many years ago crowned him self an Emperor in a lavishly expensive ceremony while his people starved. You pretend , and you believe , that by not recognising that the only Cyprus Internationally recognised is the ROC , your serving your country. Your ludicrous suggestions that the part of Cyprus with 40 thousand foreign troops running the administration IS the only real legality in Cyprus is beyond comprehension and it is totally absurd and highlights your partitionist aspirations.
Frankly my dear to put it bluntly , Cyprus is not for people who want the destruction of our national identity by becoming absorbed by a foreign country.This applies to you and to the G/Cs who share your views that partition is the only solution. Just remember that there are T/Cs and G/Cs who aspire to become one again in a united Cyprus, Cypriots who do not harbour hatred and mistrust of their fellow compatriots.
"""Very commendable statements for story books but the reality again stares you in the face that we have been unable to solve our problem for over 46 years. The will is missing on both sides and as things continue as they are the TC north will visit Pakistan today and who knows even France tomorrow, the GC south will continue to lodge complaints as normal nothing new there, did you hear they lodged a complaint with the international body for flies, stating they were flying into the unknown TRNC territory without "RoC" permission, that's how comical they have become. """
VP you sound entirely the type of Cypriot that has resigned to the idea of partition of our island. However what surprises me is, that for an intelligent person you fail miserably to comprehend realities as they are not as you and the practitionists wish them to be.
Your views are reminiscent of a tin pot dictator somewhere in Africa who many years ago crowned him self an Emperor in a lavishly expensive ceremony while his people starved. You pretend , and you believe , that by not recognising that the only Cyprus Internationally recognised is the ROC , your serving your country. Your ludicrous suggestions that the part of Cyprus with 40 thousand foreign troops running the administration IS the only real legality in Cyprus is beyond comprehension and it is totally absurd and highlights your partitionist aspirations.
Frankly my dear to put it bluntly , Cyprus is not for people who want the destruction of our national identity by becoming absorbed by a foreign country.This applies to you and to the G/Cs who share your views that partition is the only solution. Just remember that there are T/Cs and G/Cs who aspire to become one again in a united Cyprus, Cypriots who do not harbour hatred and mistrust of their fellow compatriots.
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by Viewpoint » Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:42 am
miltiades
Correct.
Could you kindly point these out? does the division not exist? have we not lived seperately for 32 years? how we not been able to resolve our issues for 46 years? what more reality do you need?
I respect your view but do not have to agree with it, as we have a growing economy and a country where no one is starving. In fact the standard of living in the north is visablly much higher than official figures released. So this tin pot dictator has brought his people out of the ghettos of the 1960s well into 2000s. You should concentrate on your own GC run south "RoC" where your economy is heavfily relient on the 1 million plus English tourists you beg to come to your country every year but in reality you hate so much. A drop in the number of English tourists would throw your sensative economy into turmoil that why you afraid of the north taking a big chunk of these tourists or no no was the isoaltion on the north to ensure we will keep wanting a solution???
It makes no difference for me as a TC as your country the "Roc" does not represent me or my community, this is what you have to comprehend.
Reality my friend, whatever the makeup the TRNC still represents me and my community, this entity or country call it what you will is what we feel a part of and what we belong to not the "RoC".
Cyprus as a whole is divided and has been for the last 32 years, Im sure you cannot deny this reality so you have to come to terms with the fact that trying to perserve a Cypriot identity which we aborted in 1963 and really did not develop is futile. My partionists views were derived from the GCs arrogance that theri numercial majority automatically gives them the right to dominate, control and discrimate against my community. I will continue with this viewpoint until or if a time comes when I and many TCsw can be persuaded that reunifcation with GCs is a much better option than self rule allbeit with close ties to Turkey for obvious economical reasons.
Until the day that you become a majority and have the weight to impliment your dreams your hands are tied by the current situation.
VP you sound entirely the type of Cypriot that has resigned to the idea of partition of our island.
Correct.
However what surprises me is, that for an intelligent person you fail miserably to comprehend realities as they are not as you and the practitionists wish them to be.
Could you kindly point these out? does the division not exist? have we not lived seperately for 32 years? how we not been able to resolve our issues for 46 years? what more reality do you need?
Your views are reminiscent of a tin pot dictator somewhere in Africa who many years ago crowned him self an Emperor in a lavishly expensive ceremony while his people starved.
I respect your view but do not have to agree with it, as we have a growing economy and a country where no one is starving. In fact the standard of living in the north is visablly much higher than official figures released. So this tin pot dictator has brought his people out of the ghettos of the 1960s well into 2000s. You should concentrate on your own GC run south "RoC" where your economy is heavfily relient on the 1 million plus English tourists you beg to come to your country every year but in reality you hate so much. A drop in the number of English tourists would throw your sensative economy into turmoil that why you afraid of the north taking a big chunk of these tourists or no no was the isoaltion on the north to ensure we will keep wanting a solution???
You pretend , and you believe , that by not recognising that the only Cyprus Internationally recognised is the ROC , your serving your country.
It makes no difference for me as a TC as your country the "Roc" does not represent me or my community, this is what you have to comprehend.
Your ludicrous suggestions that the part of Cyprus with 40 thousand foreign troops running the administration IS the only real legality in Cyprus is beyond comprehension and it is totally absurd and highlights your partitionist aspirations.
Reality my friend, whatever the makeup the TRNC still represents me and my community, this entity or country call it what you will is what we feel a part of and what we belong to not the "RoC".
Frankly my dear to put it bluntly , Cyprus is not for people who want the destruction of our national identity by becoming absorbed by a foreign country.This applies to you and to the G/Cs who share your views that partition is the only solution.
Cyprus as a whole is divided and has been for the last 32 years, Im sure you cannot deny this reality so you have to come to terms with the fact that trying to perserve a Cypriot identity which we aborted in 1963 and really did not develop is futile. My partionists views were derived from the GCs arrogance that theri numercial majority automatically gives them the right to dominate, control and discrimate against my community. I will continue with this viewpoint until or if a time comes when I and many TCsw can be persuaded that reunifcation with GCs is a much better option than self rule allbeit with close ties to Turkey for obvious economical reasons.
Just remember that there are T/Cs and G/Cs who aspire to become one again in a united Cyprus, Cypriots who do not harbour hatred and mistrust of their fellow compatriots.
Until the day that you become a majority and have the weight to impliment your dreams your hands are tied by the current situation.
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by Bananiot » Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:51 am
"If the accession path of Turkey to the EU ends in a special relationship of Turkey with Europe, this would not be beneficial, neither for Europe, neither for Greece or Cyprus".
Yiannis Valinakis, Greek Under Foreign Secretary, speaking at the Greek Foundation for European and Foreign Policy.
Yiannis Valinakis, Greek Under Foreign Secretary, speaking at the Greek Foundation for European and Foreign Policy.
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by Kikapu » Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:59 pm
Bananiot wrote:"If the accession path of Turkey to the EU ends in a special relationship of Turkey with Europe, this would not be beneficial, neither for Europe, neither for Greece or Cyprus".
Yiannis Valinakis, Greek Under Foreign Secretary, speaking at the Greek Foundation for European and Foreign Policy.
I have a feeling, he meant to say, it will not be beneficial to Greece and Cyprus. I don't think it matters one little bit to Europe whether Turkey is in the EU, or just a "special relationship". In fact, most EU nations would welcome the latter. I think this is an attempt by the Foreign Secretary to keep the EU together against Turkey to reach a settlement in Cyprus, otherwise, the writing is on the wall, that without EU's muscle to twist Turkeys arm, ROC will be left holding the bag (empty ), if "special relationship" is agreed on. If the ROC and Greece refuses to go along with the EU's wishes for the "SR" with Turkey, they will have to carry the full weight of the other 25 (soon to be) EU nations. I don't thing they will be able to with stand the weight for too long, before giving in.
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