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[doglover]

Okay, so tell me the logic in this...

A restaurant owner I know, feeds stray cats at home. They climb onto his veranda while he's having lunch with his wife and kids, and he'll throw them some food. Nice thing to do I guess.

But this guy owns a restaurant in the tourist area, and doesn't like the cats hanging around his customers while they're enjoying their meal in his restaurant. He thinks it makes his business look bad. So what does he do? He puts some Lanade poison on some left over meat, and gives it to the cats around the restaurant. He then makes a point to put some poisoned meat underneath the garbage skip out back, where the mothers kittens are resting, and all of her kittens die from poisoning as well!

So Piratis... just because you've fed some stray cats in your time, does not mean that you think any differently to those people who kill cats and dogs over here.

You either agree, or disagree with the poisoning of animals. There is no inbetween. And for you to try and justify what these people do, makes you look just as bad as they are.

[Piratis]

You either agree, or disagree with the poisoning of animals. There is no inbetween.

So do you agree or disagree with the animals that in your country are considered as pests and are killed by poisoning?

According to your logic, any animal that you consider that can be killed for food, for fur, because it is a pest etc, it is fine, while some other animals should be in a different category just because you think so.

So do you agree or disagree with the killing of animals? There is no inbetween.

Become a vegetarian and then come to judge others. Doing it now just show what a hypocrite you are and nothing more. As I said I also have cats and I would hate anybody that hurt them and if I knew who he was I would hurt him. However I am not a hypocrite like some in here to come and say what an "animal lover" I am and criticize everybody else.

You claim to have a high iq but cannot distinguish between food and pets...

The only difference is how a person feels about an animal. There are people that have pigs, rabbits etc as pets. The same animals are food for others. So whats the difference according to you? Please tell me.

[Piratis]

I am not a vegetarian. However if a person became vegetarian not because of health problems or religion, but because of his love and respect to animals then this person has my full respect. If such a person claims that he is more civilized than us, I would agree.

But hypocrites I can't stand!

[5yearplan]

After reading this thread the only thing I would say on the subject is that the only animal Piratis would probably like to keep as a pet is a DONKEY. I come to that conclusion because 100% of the rubbish he has written on this thread appears to have come out of his ASS ! !

[G.Man]

You claim to have a high iq but cannot distinguish between food and pets...

The only difference is how a person feels about an animal. There are people that have pigs, rabbits etc as pets. The same animals are food for others. So whats the difference according to you? Please tell me.

As I said you cannot distinguish...

One is kept on a farm and BRED for food, then humanely slaughtered...

A pet is kept in ones home, loved by the children of the family, taken for walks, used to treat children respect for animals...

Had more cypriots done that you wouldnt see people being arrested for pouring petrol over a live dog and seeting it on fire, or tying fireworks to animals and setting them off, or buying the meat you talk about, adding poison to it, and sprinkling it about popular dog walking routes, throwing it in peoples gardens who have pets and ruining the lives of the families and children that own those pets...

As I said, I can tell the difference, lots of people here can tell the difference its you that cant...

Hypocrites eh... only you... only you...

You claim to be an animal lover yet you defend your countrymen who perform this barbaric act at the expense of making yourself look a proper fool..

You challenge all the inhumanity of the TC's with almost every thread on the subject, yet here you go defending as barbaric behaviour towards animals...

Yep hypocrite indeed

[Olga]

I have to say that in the words of Sotos and Piratis there is a reasonable seed.

It's convinient to say that cows, pigs, chicken are killed because humans like to eat pork, beef, lamb etc and can get the proteins needed and that those animals are killed in an "experts" way so they don't feel anything. Come on! Of course they feel. I read that you see tears in the cows' eyes when these animals are taken to the slaughter.
And salmon fish... They put them to the big net and smash at the ground with a big power, so to kill all fish at the same time and not to bother with every specific. I don't think all fish die immediately so there are those who are injured and rack with pain before their death.

I cannot say that I am a true animal lover, although I have a dog (3 years old) and a cat (8 years old), but I eat fish, chicken, meat, i can slap a mosquito on the wall...

I think a true animal lover is my mom's friend in Russia. She cannot even kill a mouse or a cockroach because they are alive..

[Piratis]

5yearplan, your kind of reply reveals just another person without arguments in this thread.

One is kept on a farm and BRED for food, then humanely slaughtered...

A pet is kept in ones home, loved by the children of the family, taken for walks, used to treat children respect for animals...

Any animal could be kept home as a pet. If you in your family you had a little sheep, you and children could love that sheep as much as you can love a dog. Yet you have no problem when sheep are slaughtered. This is called hypocrisy.

You claim to be an animal lover

Where did I claim that? Sorry, but I did not as I am not a hypocrite like you and some others in here. If I was an animal lover I would be a vegetarian.

This whole discussion reminds me of a story an Indian friend of mine told me. When he was a child an American family, friends of his family, had visited India. There the children of the American family were shocked when they saw chickens sold with their heads and their feathers. Up until then they though that chickens were produced in factories, not that are animals that are being killed.

All this "humane" killing etc are crap that you want to believe because you can not accept the reality: That in our world, right or wrong, animals have no rights and are used in the ways that people best see fit. This is the case in ALL countries.

Now they even started to genetically modify animals to best serve our needs. They even made chickens without feathers! Thats the reality my friend. Stop trying to pretend that you are somehow more civilized or love animals more than others. This is clearly not the case, so stop being a hypocrite.

[doglover]

After reading this thread the only thing I would say on the subject is that the only animal Piratis would probably like to keep as a pet is a DONKEY. I come to that conclusion because 100% of the rubbish he has written on this thread appears to have come out of his ASS ! !

The funny thing is... many years ago the people of Cyprus would sit on donkeys to travel from A to B. They weren't disgusted to have bodily contact with them then, as it was their only means of transportation. But nowadays they buy top of the range BMW's and Mercedes, and think very little of animals. Some feel too disgusted to even touch dogs.

Piratis, why don't you visit the US, Canada, UK, and the countless other countries where the majority of people treat domestic animals (dogs, cats etc.) in a civilized manner. I think you will find it very difficult to find a house that has a goat or cow running around in the living room, playing tug of war with the kids.

Dogs are very clever, and very loving towards their owners, providing they are shown the love and respect they deserve. It's so nice coming home to my dogs, and being greeted at the door with so much love. I love my dogs so much that I will keep the a/c on for them while I'm out at work so that they don't get hot. I panic over them as I would my own children. I went to the UK not so long ago, and my mum looked after my dogs for the two weeks that I was gone. They missed me so much, that they would not eat, and were depressed until the day I got back. My mum had to force feed them, literally. Now who would show you that much love???

You're probably thinking that this all sounds pathetic... but unless you've grown up with parents that teach you to love and respect animals... then you're never going to understand how it feels to love a cat or dog completely. And you're also not going to understand our points of views, which is why you disagree so strongly with us. So.. I rest my case.

[Piratis]

doglover, I visited many countries. I didn't visit Korea though, but from what I know they love dog meat there. I guess those that eat dog meat are uncivilized while those that eat cow meat are civilized. Ok, doglover, whatever. My arguments here are clear if you don't get them thats alright.



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[doglover]

"Where did I claim that? Sorry, but I did not as I am not a hypocrite like you and some others in here. If I was an animal lover I would be a vegetarian."

Ah, so what you're basically saying, is that you do condone the poisoning of animals here, because you're not an animal lover, and since you do eat meat, you would be a total hypocrit if you showed a general fondness for dogs and cats? How messed up is that!