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Animal Cruelty in Cyprus :(

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Postby G.Man » Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:21 pm

Piratis wrote:I agree 99% with what Sotos said in this thread.

What I would add is that animals should not be killed or tortured just for fun.

However I also find it highly hypocritical the double standards that some people show between pets and other animals. All animals have a life, and non of them was created just to be our food.

The fact is that different societies treat different animals in different ways. In some countries a cow is a holly animal and in others they eat dogs.

Is a society that eats one kind of animal (e.g. cow) less civilized than one that eats another (e.g. dog)? No.

Also except for their food, animals are killed for other reasons as well. One of them is when they are considered pests or when they curry diseases.

Some of the hypocrites in here would not have a problem if mice are killed because they are considered pests and dirty, while they would complain loudly if a dog is killed for the same reason.

Therefore Cypriots are not worst than others, but they are as bad as everybody else is in the way humans in general treat animals.

I would like to ask our friends from the UK that come to Cyprus and complain one question: If Indians that live in the UK said that they hate the English people because they eat too much cow meat, what would you do?
Would you stop killing caws (and driving them "mad"), or would you just say to those Indians that the society in the UK is different and if they want the Indian ways that they should go back from were they came from?

The same answer is here. If you don't like Cyprus stay out. If you want to live here then adjust yourself, or at least shut it, and don't expect that our society should change and become like yours, because really, you are not any better.


Piratis as usual your logic is seriously flawed...

We are not talking about the humane mass farming of animals that is overseen by animal cruelty experts...

We are also not talking about the sacred cows of india that arent even allowed to be fed or touched by humans...

We are talking about members of our own families, that some people think they have a right to kill because they DONT like them, not because they are animal lovers...

There is no hypocrasy here, man is an omnivorous being, and as such it has a choice to hunt or farm animals for food... Yeah sure we can give up the meat and eat lots of pulses and the like, and spend most of our lives full of gas, but that is unatural..

And if I am correct, some of the animals we eat are also omnivorous or carnivores and also kill other animals to eat, so in that respect we are just like the animals of the four legged variety...

We should not have to adjust our lives for the illegal and cruel actions of some individuals, and the fact that you say if you dont like it get out, just shows the kind of human being you are... because its that attitude that maintains the behaviour shown by these other cruel individuals...

Whether you do it yourself or not, if you can state that its us that protest against it that are wrong, then you are just as bad as those that do it...

I have a great deal of respect for anti-vivisectionists, and animal rights protesters, but you dont see them trying to close down food farms now do you...

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Postby GorillaGal » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:22 pm

you tell 'em, G.man! nicely said!
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Postby Piratis » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:04 am

Piratis as usual your logic is seriously flawed...


On the contrary I talk perfectly logical. On the other hand you are trying to make logic out of your customs, that a dog is somehow different than a pig or a fish in terms of how much its life worths.

We are not talking about the humane mass farming of animals that is overseen by animal cruelty experts...


So the difference is on the ways that the animal is killed? So it would it be OK to kill dogs and cats in the "experts" way? And can you also tell me how the fish you eat is killed in this "humane" way?

Anyways, it is obvious that you have no valid arguments. You just want Cyprus to do it your way, and this is not just in this case but with everything. You come to Cyprus and you do nothing more than bitching if something is unlike the ways you are used to.

The expert humane ways of G.Man and the "animal lovers":

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Postby GorillaGal » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:47 am

you are sick Piratis. that photo was totally uncalled for.
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Postby anastasiaC » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:40 am

unique_earthling wrote:Yes animals dont judge you if your fat or too thin, they dont care if you looking good or having a slobby day, they give you unconditional love, and are always pleased to see you. and i dont know any human that would lick my feet after a hard days work, before a shower..:):):)


haha
but see I have nothing against animals but i just think to have one lick my feet is gross man!!
and when u go to a house that keeps animals indoors it stinks!! really!
im not been nasty but I just dont like it......
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Postby G.Man » Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:48 am

Piratis wrote:
Piratis as usual your logic is seriously flawed...


On the contrary I talk perfectly logical. On the other hand you are trying to make logic out of your customs, that a dog is somehow different than a pig or a fish in terms of how much its life worths.

We are not talking about the humane mass farming of animals that is overseen by animal cruelty experts...


So the difference is on the ways that the animal is killed? So it would it be OK to kill dogs and cats in the "experts" way? And can you also tell me how the fish you eat is killed in this "humane" way?

Anyways, it is obvious that you have no valid arguments. You just want Cyprus to do it your way, and this is not just in this case but with everything. You come to Cyprus and you do nothing more than bitching if something is unlike the ways you are used to.

The expert humane ways of G.Man and the "animal lovers":

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With every word and every sick picture you post, you make yourself look more like an idiot...

Yes its ok, for experts to put a dog or cat to sleep, pet lovers allow it all the time for a dog/cat that is too sick to be cured and have any quality of life... But you obviously truely dont understand the difference between that and poisoning, dog fighting, tieing a firework to an animals tail...

Keep going, I have no need to comment further, you do yourself no favours..

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Postby G.Man » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:11 am

PS. I would be interested to hear from people in TRNC to see if this is an island problem or a problem with just a few on this side...

I know its not a problem with the majority of cypriots on this side, just a few assholes...
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Postby unique_earthling » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:28 am

haha
but see I have nothing against animals but i just think to have one lick my feet is gross man!!
and when u go to a house that keeps animals indoors it stinks!! really!
im not been nasty but I just dont like it......


EXCUSE ME!!!... What a load of absolute ignorant crap anastasia, my house does not stink and a house neednt if the animals, bedding and house is cleaned regularly. Thats a Cypriot mentallity for you. Sorry but my neighbours house stinks from her 4 kids, who are far more dirty than my house and animals are.. Never heard such garbage, the sticking of animals in the yard tied up bored and lonely or in a metal cage, is not understanding dogs, so you have carried the ignorance with you, my dogs are miniatures they would die outside, let alone crave human contact. I dispair at the mentallity.........
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Postby anastasiaC » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:33 am

hey I really think they do
when we were searching for a home if we went into one that had pets it would reek
animals have a distinct smell
especially wet dog
you might not be able to smell it cause u are immune to it.......

i dont mind the cypriot mentality title - Im just telling it like it is for me sweet no need to get offended....
u shouldnt judge the neighbours....having 4 kids is not an easy thing.....
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Postby unique_earthling » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:48 am

well i know my house doesnt smell, my friend is an estate agents and she said you wouldnt even know i had dogs, of course dogs dont have to smell.......
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