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[Mickleham]

Andri_cy,

You have been getting a lot of advice as how to deal with your situation, so here's mine. First of all, your husband deserves a lot of credit for not losing his cool, and "kill" the bastard that hit you, as suggested by some members. He would have ended up in jail and sued for everything you got, in the great American Justice System. That would have left you and your child in much worse situation.

As for the wife who got beat up and sought shelter in your home for 2 days, does not deserve your friendship any longer. If it wasn't bad enough that her bastard husband would slap you for defending her, that she would turn around and virtually kick you as well, if you pressed charges against the bastard husband, by telling you, that her friendship would end with you, if you did. I'll would tell her, "don't let the door hit you in the ass, on the way out, BITCH". What nerve, to try for you to corrupt your moral values by not wanting to do the right thing, by pressing assault charges against the bastard husband. If she was a friend, she should have been leading the way herself. If you let her get close to you again, all you be doing is dealing with their problems, day in day out. She knows where all the Social Services are, for her protection, if she needs them. They are all in the first few pages of the phone book. You can't help her, she needs professionals in "Domestic Abuse" to help her.

Now for the bastard husband. There are a lot of crazy people that live in the States. Yes, more than any other country, in my view. It will serve you no purpose to have this bastard to become your "long term enemy", so when you meet with the prosecuting State attorney, it might be wise to suggest to offer a "plea bargain" for the bastard to seek "professional help" for himself, mandated by the court, so he will have no choice but to go to the "meetings", rather than put him in jail for few months, where he will be more bitter when he comes out than when he went in. This way, he will get some help, which would also help the wife and kids, if they have any, and he won't lose his job either. It might not be the justice you want for what he did to you, but it might be a wise one.

All the best.

Kikapu, allow me to say, that you are an inferior idiot for giving such lousy advice to this fine lady, victim of assault in her own house!

I suggest to her, that she seeks professional legal advice.

[Kikapu]

[Kikapu, allow me to say, that you are an inferior idiot for giving such lousy advice to this fine lady, victim of assault in her own house!.

It's better to be an Inferior idiot than a Superior one.!!!

[andri_cy]

Andri_cy,

You have been getting a lot of advice as how to deal with your situation, so here's mine. First of all, your husband deserves a lot of credit for not losing his cool, and "kill" the bastard that hit you, as suggested by some members. He would have ended up in jail and sued for everything you got, in the great American Justice System. That would have left you and your child in much worse situation.

As for the wife who got beat up and sought shelter in your home for 2 days, does not deserve your friendship any longer. If it wasn't bad enough that her bastard husband would slap you for defending her, that she would turn around and virtually kick you as well, if you pressed charges against the bastard husband, by telling you, that her friendship would end with you, if you did. I'll would tell her, "don't let the door hit you in the ass, on the way out, BITCH". What nerve, to try for you to corrupt your moral values by not wanting to do the right thing, by pressing assault charges against the bastard husband. If she was a friend, she should have been leading the way herself. If you let her get close to you again, all you be doing is dealing with their problems, day in day out. She knows where all the Social Services are, for her protection, if she needs them. They are all in the first few pages of the phone book. You can't help her, she needs professionals in "Domestic Abuse" to help her.

Now for the bastard husband. There are a lot of crazy people that live in the States. Yes, more than any other country, in my view. It will serve you no purpose to have this bastard to become your "long term enemy", so when you meet with the prosecuting State attorney, it might be wise to suggest to offer a "plea bargain" for the bastard to seek "professional help" for himself, mandated by the court, so he will have no choice but to go to the "meetings", rather than put him in jail for few months, where he will be more bitter when he comes out than when he went in. This way, he will get some help, which would also help the wife and kids, if they have any, and he won't lose his job either. It might not be the justice you want for what he did to you, but it might be a wise one.

All the best.

Yes Kikapu I am proud of my husband too because what you said is exactly what would have happened if he had touched him. It is crazy how people can come and assault you in your home but if you strike back they can get judgements against you!
I have decided to cut my friend loose. She needs help but I am not qualified to help her. If she wants to stay with a guy that doesnt work and expects her to, that hits her and talks to her like a dog, it is her problem but I do have to worry about me and about what my daughter might grow up thinking is ok.
I do not know what we will do when we meet with the DA yet but we have been discussing different options. One of them being the counseling plus a restraining order. We will see. Thank you for your advice.

[Ascot]

Andri_cy,

You have been getting a lot of advice as how to deal with your situation, so here's mine. First of all, your husband deserves a lot of credit for not losing his cool, and "kill" the bastard that hit you, as suggested by some members. He would have ended up in jail and sued for everything you got, in the great American Justice System. That would have left you and your child in much worse situation.

As for the wife who got beat up and sought shelter in your home for 2 days, does not deserve your friendship any longer. If it wasn't bad enough that her bastard husband would slap you for defending her, that she would turn around and virtually kick you as well, if you pressed charges against the bastard husband, by telling you, that her friendship would end with you, if you did. I'll would tell her, "don't let the door hit you in the ass, on the way out, BITCH". What nerve, to try for you to corrupt your moral values by not wanting to do the right thing, by pressing assault charges against the bastard husband. If she was a friend, she should have been leading the way herself. If you let her get close to you again, all you be doing is dealing with their problems, day in day out. She knows where all the Social Services are, for her protection, if she needs them. They are all in the first few pages of the phone book. You can't help her, she needs professionals in "Domestic Abuse" to help her.

Now for the bastard husband. There are a lot of crazy people that live in the States. Yes, more than any other country, in my view. It will serve you no purpose to have this bastard to become your "long term enemy", so when you meet with the prosecuting State attorney, it might be wise to suggest to offer a "plea bargain" for the bastard to seek "professional help" for himself, mandated by the court, so he will have no choice but to go to the "meetings", rather than put him in jail for few months, where he will be more bitter when he comes out than when he went in. This way, he will get some help, which would also help the wife and kids, if they have any, and he won't lose his job either. It might not be the justice you want for what he did to you, but it might be a wise one.

All the best.

Yes Kikapu I am proud of my husband too because what you said is exactly what would have happened if he had touched him. It is crazy how people can come and assault you in your home but if you strike back they can get judgements against you!
I have decided to cut my friend loose. She needs help but I am not qualified to help her. If she wants to stay with a guy that doesnt work and expects her to, that hits her and talks to her like a dog, it is her problem but I do have to worry about me and about what my daughter might grow up thinking is ok.
I do not know what we will do when we meet with the DA yet but we have been discussing different options. One of them being the counseling plus a restraining order. We will see. Thank you for your advice.

I have read the whole story here. Disappointing. I agree in principal with the handling and advice offered here.
However, In my opinion, the only thing that really strikes me a little bit, is the fact that the husband of Andry was either too cool or he is a soft character. He should have shown a bit more strength and bravado perhaps. Because, his wife was under extreme danger from the attacker to inflict serious injuries to her. In this instances one has got to be vigilant and quick to respond with the necessary determination.
One does not seat and Analise what are the consequences of a judgement by the justice system.

[reportfromcyprus]

Ascot, I disagree. The whole point to this discussion is that impulsive violence is not acceptable.

Unless one is well-trained in self-defense and can immobilise a violent person without harm to himself or anyone else around, then it's best for the authorities to deal with them.

Cooler heads should prevail. Not give in to temporary anger, but find permanent solutions to these kinds of difficult situations.

Of course this is all easy for us to say, sitting outside the situation, but this is not Rambo, where the hero is going to have an AK47 and blow everyone away without consequences. That's fantasy. In reality, you have to remember that police involvement can be a double-edged sword if you have to explain why someone is seriously injured in your home. No matter what the provocation, you're liable for your actions.

[Ascot]

Ascot, I disagree. The whole point to this discussion is that impulsive violence is not acceptable.

Unless one is well-trained in self-defense and can immobilise a violent person without harm to himself or anyone else around, then it's best for the authorities to deal with them.

Cooler heads should prevail. Not give in to temporary anger, but find permanent solutions to these kinds of difficult situations.

Of course this is all easy for us to say, sitting outside the situation, but this is not Rambo, where the hero is going to have an AK47 and blow everyone away without consequences. That's fantasy. In reality, you have to remember that police involvement can be a double-edged sword if you have to explain why someone is seriously injured in your home. No matter what the provocation, you're liable for your actions.

We are not talking about provocation here. There was an attack.
The fine lady's life was threatened. He could have pulled a knife in the flip of a second.

In any case the attacker can still claim that he was not merely manhandled but that was also attacked!

[Kikapu]

[I have read the whole story here. Disappointing. I agree in principal with the handling and advice offered here.
However, In my opinion, the only thing that really strikes me a little bit, is the fact that the husband of Andry was either too cool or he is a soft character. He should have shown a bit more strength and bravado perhaps. Because, his wife was under extreme danger from the attacker to inflict serious injuries to her. In this instances one has got to be vigilant and quick to respond with the necessary determination.
One does not seat and Analise what are the consequences of a judgement by the justice system.

I believe he hit Andri_cy once, by slapping her in the face. He was not a stranger, that barged into the house and started attacking her, for Andri's husband to defend her with all his might. If that was the situation, sure, let the bastard have it. As the saying goes, "I rather be judged by 12, than be carried by 6". What I think happened, was Andri got between the bastard and his wife, to prevent him doing any more harm to her. He just "sucker punched" Andri which then her husband removed him from the house. At this point, the damage had been done, and any excessive force would have been damaging to Andris family.

[Mickleham]

I tend to agree that Andrians husband momentarily has shown a weakness.
She should reconsider, her marriage with him. I hope and wish he was not a Cypriot too. What an embarrassment!
But one need to know the circumstances to provide an opinion.

[Kikapu]

I tend to agree that Andrians husband momentarily has shown a weakness.
She should reconsider, her marriage with him. I hope and wish he was not a Cypriot too. What an embarrassment!
But one need to know the circumstances to provide an opinion.

At last, the "Superior Idiot" has spoken. Talk about embarrassment, if you're a Cypriot, why are you hiding in Australia, when part of your country is under foreign occupation, or was it a sign of weakness that took you there.

[Mickleham]

At last, the "Superior Idiot" has spoken. Talk about embarrassment, if you're a Cypriot, why are you hiding in Australia, when part of your country is under foreign occupation, or was it a sign of weakness that took you there.[/quote]

kikapu...


You are definitely an imbecile!
I am holidaying in Australia 4 times a year!