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[Piratis]

There are 1000 left in the north, so they werent all forced out at gunpoint... They chose to stay and still do...

Most people fled, afraid of being killed, which wasnt the case...

G.Man you have no clue what you are talking about. 6000 got killed within days during the invasion. Underage girls were raped. People were taken to jails in Turkey, many of them never to be seen again. The ones that managed to stay were treated in very inhumane ways and most of them were also forced to live eventually.

Also answer this question: Why for the last 32 years Turkey does not allow them to return to their homes and has given fake property titles to others? Come on G.Man, cut the crap please. Turkey invaded our island, ethnically cleansed the majority of the population, changed the names of our towns and villages, turned our churches to barns and other things (including military facilities), and there is no excuse for this illegality.

TC's never had any portion of the island eh?

What I said is clear, can't you read? I said:

TCs are 18% and they never had any portion of Cyprus as exclusively their own.

Yes I am not cypriot, but I live here as well... although I know some cypriots will always hate me for being british and not a cypriot

Who are hated are those that support the crimes and illegalities against us. Perfectly natural.

[G.Man]

and there is no excuse for this illegality.

No of course not, nothing happened prior to the summer of 1974, everything was peace and harmony...

[Strahd]

and there is no excuse for this illegality.

No of course not, nothing happened prior to the summer of 1974, everything was peace and harmony...

Come on now... do you have everything prepared? The booklet from the local propaganda office... come on we all know what you are going to say about the genocide of the TCs.... millions were killed the second holocaust happened...

[miltiades]

ukforamnesia , I do not think that the average Cypriot differentiates between the strict interpretation of the word "sovereign " and British bases.

Piratis , would you know the percentage of British originated currency that is spent or invested in the Cypriot economy ?? I would suggest that it exceeds 50% , and would further suggest that the British contribution to the Cypriot economy is responsible for the economic developments that have sustained the local economy to a European standard. Tourism from the UK exceeds 60% , how much of this figure is attributable to the British bases being in Cyprus ? Our economy is dependant on foreign currency and our largest source is the UK , coupled with the fact that there are thousands of Cypriots in the UK and many thousands of half English / half Cypriot second and third generation who also contribute to our economy , I think the British antagonists in Cyprus ought to give Britain a little credit as well . I know about the guarantees and the failure of Britain to act in 1974 , I know about British support of Turkey , but I also know that here in the UK we have in the government many Cyprus friendly MPS who year on year out attend the July anniversary of the invasion , and support a united Cyprus with all troops out. You mentioned that the British bases in Cyprus are the biggest in Europe and I for a start feel good about this for numerous reasons , political and as mentioned above economic.The British have traditionally looked after their interests as all countries throughout History did , we in Cyprus , also must look after our interests both political and economic and must exercise great care in selecting our friends bearing in mind our insignificant size , and having Britain as a friend is by far the most appropriate action .
I beleive that the Cypriot Government can extract far more from Britain's usage of the bases than it currently does , the question of rent payments is one example.

[G.Man]

Not to mention the amount of money the british spend buying and renting homes here in cyprus..

I pay over cyp£1000 pm for my house... all british originated cash, my colleageues spend a similar amount...

Sure the rents should be looked at for the SBA's if they are too low..

Britain shouldnt get any special treatment for its history

[EUropean666]

Simple really, no junta intervention = no turkish invasion...

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Do you believe that Turkey managed to prepare an invasion within 2-3 days? How come? americans needed 6 months to liberate iraq and 3 months to bomb the barbarian talibans. How did Turkey managed to prepare such an operation withing few days?

Turkey was ready from long before and it has plans ready. It just needed an good excuse, which was the coup that failed. Turkey would have invaded Cyprus no matter if the coup would occur or not. It is on their nature to invade others just like they do with Noth Iraq since 1991.

the correct equation is "any excuse given = turkish invasion"

regarding britain. Cyprus has agreed with france, it is time to give them some land.

by the way...is there any cypriot base in the UK?

[sajica58]

Simple really, no junta intervention = no turkish invasion...

Do you believe that Turkey managed to prepare an invasion within 2-3 days? How come? americans needed 6 months to liberate iraq and 3 months to bomb the barbarian talibans. How did Turkey managed to prepare such an operation withing few days?

Turkey was ready from long before and it has plans ready. It just needed an good excuse, which was the coup that failed. Turkey would have invaded Cyprus no matter if the coup would occur or not. It is on their nature to invade others just like they do with Noth Iraq since 1991.

the correct equation is "any excuse given = turkish invasion"

regarding britain. Cyprus has agreed with france, it is time to give them some land.

by the way...is there any cypriot base in the UK?[/quote]

U.S.A had to organise a coalition of partners to invade iraq
it had to convince countries near iraq ,to let them use their countries airforce bases. how far away is USA from the middle east? America needed 6 months to liberate iraq? you are joking of course!
it is on your nature to exagerate everthing when it suits you.
The turks haven't invaded iraq.or is there a "trni" now?

the coup only failed, because of the turkish invasion, thats why you have no junta in greece...

and i don't understand what you mean about "regarding britain"

by the way....is there a cyprus need for a base in uk?.
the bases in cyprus are used because of the troubles in the middle east. Britain gave cyprus independance and in return cyprus let them keep two bases. Why have you got a problem with that.
How many cypriots live in uk? Do we shout "get cypriots out of uk?

[rotate]

Absolute waste of UK tax payers money maintaining the SBA's, more so if we ever have to pay the unpaid rent to the Cypriot government!

Far better for the UK to withdraw from all foreign adventures/entanglements including US led, NATO or UN operations and concentrate purely on the defence of the British Isles, excluding of course the Republic of Ireland. Money saved on running and/or 'possibly' paying owed rent for the SBA's will be better spent on re-equiping UK military forces with up to date weaponry including tactical battlefield nuclear weapons and biological warfare materials.

The recent 'grand standing' of the UN Force for Lebanon discussions by European political leaders serves only to well to illustrate the futility of placing any faith in the EU as a combined military entity, a fact no doubt not lost upon the strategic military planners of Cyprus Greece and Turkey who may have hoped for, or alternatively hoped against any EU military intervention in Cyprus as and when hostilities are eventually resumed.

What the Cypriot government choose to do with the sites of the redundent British SBA's should be a matter purely for them to decide, Iran Syria China N. Korea and Israel being the most likely 'friendly' nations who would be willing to pay in hard cash as opposed to the US Russia France Greece or Turkey who like the British would want the former SBA's for free or no more than a pepper corn rent.

As a UK tax payer I shudder at the thought of the cost of lighting up the top of Mt. Olympos every night when local councils in the UK are now considering turning off street lighting at night in an effort to reduce costs and to save energy

[miltiades]

rotate , think of all that money that can be saved by withdrawing from all overseas commitments.
We can have lots more asylum seekers to look after , as well as thousands up on thousands of more immigrants , we can invest in more hospitals to take care of them and invite half the f..ng Indian sub continent to join us.
And with all our savings we can have schools to teach the ignorant natives Urdu ,Farsi , JAPORATEE ??? Chinese , Japanese stick your n..s !! Those natives who dont like it piss off to Cyprus and Spain. Englanistan can do with out them .
Just imagine a new generation of English children happily singing" peri peari soura te kokkisi nazare na leye."
That's bye bye black ship in Urdu.

[MarsdenCuckoo]

Miltiades: tut tut, such bad language for a 'lecturer'!?

And, as for Rotate: If you really believe (and more to the point... accept) the Councils are seriously considering what you suggest, then might I suggest you stand as a local councillor and really see where all the money goes?!?

Christine