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[Piratis]

G.Man, here is the definition of ethnic cleansing:

The term ethnic cleansing refers to various policies of forcibly removing people of another ethnic group. At one end of the spectrum, it is virtually indistinguishable from forced emigration and population transfer, while at the other it merges with deportation and genocide.

What Turkey did in Cyprus is exactly ethnic cleansing. Removing many thousands of people from an area that they have been a majority for 1000s of years simply because they belong to a specific race is a clear example of ethnic cleansing.

There is a thousand years of hatred between turks and greeks, imagine how the rest of europe would look if we treated germany in the same way...

As I remember, germany has claimed more british lives than cyprus lost to the turkish invasion.. Perhaps its time to start thinking about getting over it... its 32 years ago...

Germany today doesn't occupy part of UK, France or Poland.
It is like you are telling me that Hitler after occupying most of Europe could just say: "Hey, ok lets stop the war and let me have what I illegally occupy and get over it".

When Turkey removes her troops, shows respect to the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus and stops trying to brake our country apart, THEN the hostilities will be over, we will all get over it and move ahead.

[miltiades]

G.MAN WROTE :
""Mines measured at 184 by mensa, i would suggest yours is a smidge lower ""

I thought that measurements were now in metric !! But it sounds impressive must admit. You obviously missed out the "n " G.MAN .

[G.Man]

G.Man, here is the definition of ethnic cleansing:

The term ethnic cleansing refers to various policies of forcibly removing people of another ethnic group. At one end of the spectrum, it is virtually indistinguishable from forced emigration and population transfer, while at the other it merges with deportation and genocide.

What Turkey did in Cyprus is exactly ethnic cleansing. Removing many thousands of people from an area that they have been a majority for 1000s of years simply because they belong to a specific race is a clear example of ethnic cleansing.

There is a thousand years of hatred between turks and greeks, imagine how the rest of europe would look if we treated germany in the same way...

As I remember, germany has claimed more british lives than cyprus lost to the turkish invasion.. Perhaps its time to start thinking about getting over it... its 32 years ago...

Germany today doesn't occupy part of UK, France or Poland.
It is like you are telling me that Hitler after occupying most of Europe could just say: "Hey, ok lets stop the war and let me have what I illegally occupy and get over it".

When Turkey removes her troops, shows respect to the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus and stops trying to brake our country apart, THEN the hostilities will be over, we will all get over it and move ahead.

Then by the same token, the TC's were ethnically cleansed from the south then.. they were forced to relocate... Thanks for the wikipedia definition

As I understand it, the military is protecting TC's from losing their portion of the island, it is not trying to break the country apart any further...

There are still GC's living in the north as far as I am aware, so they have not been ethnically cleansed at all... most of them fled agreed, but some didnt... and they havent been killed either...

Talat is committed to the re-unification of Cyprus so what is the holdup in the south?


Militiades

I have no idea what you are on about

[Piratis]

Then by the same token, the TC's were ethnically cleansed from the south then.. they were forced to relocate...

The TCs went to the north to achieve their dream of partition, not because they were forced. If the Turkish invasion didn't happen nobody would be forced to became a refugee.

As I understand it, the military is protecting TC's from losing their portion of the island, it is not trying to break the country apart any further...

G.Man, we already established that your understanding on many things in Cyprus and in general (e.g. what "ethnic cleansing" means) is not very good. So better educate yourself before you talk.

TCs are 18% and they never had any portion of Cyprus as exclusively their own. The Turkish army is illegaly keeping our homes, not protecting the properties of TCs.

There are still GC's living in the north as far as I am aware, so they have not been ethnically cleansed at all

Out of the 200.000 there are probably less than 1000 left. Or maybe according to your 184 IQ if not every single person is ethnically cleansed that means that ethnic cleansing didn't take place?

most of them fled agreed

"fled agreed"? This is a black joke right?

Talat is committed to the re-unification of Cyprus so what is the holdup in the south?

Talat is committed to the word unification. Have a look here to understand what he and his similars mean with this word:
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7129

[ukofamnesia]

My dear Cypriot friends.
I invited you to comment on the fact of why the so-called British SOVEREIGN Base Areas are still in Cyprus over 40 years since your independence(?) from GB.
I did nt expect the thread to DEGENERATE into another RANT about the Greek Coup/ Turkish takeover.
Please keep that for ALL the other relevant threads.
It doesnt seem to me Britain NEEDS to play divide and rule here!
You guys cant unite even for a minute to boot us out!

[Piratis]

My dear Cypriot friends.

Clarification: Many of the people that replyed here are not Cypriots. (e.g. G.Man, stubastu)

You guys cant unite even for a minute to boot us out!

Thats the whole point of divide and rule. Turkey and UK can keep their armies in Cyprus while Cypriots fight each other.

[miltiades]

"""so-called British SOVEREIGN Base Areas ""

There is nothing about the bases that warrants the use of the terminology to the derogatory level of "SO CALLED "
The British bases have served the local economy extremely well over the years and they also provide employment for hundreds of Cypriots. The ROC Has never requested their removal and to the best of information currently available , the British bases will remain in Cyprus for years to come. After all the Americans have bases in Britain as well as in mostr European countries.

[Piratis]

The British bases have served the local economy extremely well over the years and they also provide employment for hundreds of Cypriots.

The salaries etc are a drop in the ocean compared to the amount of real estate they occupy. The bases in Cyprus are the biggest British bases in the world, and probably some of the biggest in the world in general. (I don't know know if the Americans have any bigger)

[ukofamnesia]

The point was in the word SOVEREIGN.

Obviously as British as Devon and Cornwall then old chap!

The USAAF bases in Britain are also misnamed as RAF Mildenhall etc.

[G.Man]

Then by the same token, the TC's were ethnically cleansed from the south then.. they were forced to relocate...

The TCs went to the north to achieve their dream of partition, not because they were forced. If the Turkish invasion didn't happen nobody would be forced to became a refugee.

As I understand it, the military is protecting TC's from losing their portion of the island, it is not trying to break the country apart any further...

G.Man, we already established that your understanding on many things in Cyprus and in general (e.g. what "ethnic cleansing" means) is not very good. So better educate yourself before you talk.

TCs are 18% and they never had any portion of Cyprus as exclusively their own. The Turkish army is illegaly keeping our homes, not protecting the properties of TCs.

There are still GC's living in the north as far as I am aware, so they have not been ethnically cleansed at all

Out of the 200.000 there are probably less than 1000 left. Or maybe according to your 184 IQ if not every single person is ethnically cleansed that means that ethnic cleansing didn't take place?

most of them fled agreed

"fled agreed"? This is a black joke right?

Talat is committed to the re-unification of Cyprus so what is the holdup in the south?

Talat is committed to the word unification. Have a look here to understand what he and his similars mean with this word:
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=7129

There are 1000 left in the north, so they werent all forced out at gunpoint... They chose to stay and still do...

Most people fled, afraid of being killed, which wasnt the case...

"Most people fled, agreed" means I agree, most left the area.. I apologise for my lack of punctuation and the closed mindedness that made it an issue..

TC's never had any portion of the island eh? What even up until the British took control at the time of the first world war? The Ottoman empire must be a myth then yes?

Yes I am not cypriot, but I live here as well... although I know some cypriots will always hate me for being british and not a cypriot... Just as well I never had the same attitude to all the cypriots in Britain who I have been friends with for 40 years... Turkish and Greek...

SBA's have a symbiotic relationship with Cyprus for the most part, but there will always be some who want them out because they are British and feel its some kind of colonisation... I am sure when re-unification happens they will go anyway..

I have no need to read any more of your rhetoric, I have read it at length in the past...

I await with baited breath your next patronising reply