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[Niyaz2137]

"I don't understand what Turkey is afraid of... if Tukey only FARTS our little country would dissapear"
--A close Cypriot friend of mine

So why DO they stay? Why so many troops? Why such a large part of the island for only 18% of the population?

It seems almost... imperialistic.

[Simon]

Imperialistic is exactly what it is.

[Piratis]

Niyaz, how could possibly Turkey be afraid of Cyprus?

They are just giving cheap excuses to occupy part of our country. Just like Hitler in WWII that he invaded and occupied Czechoslovakia with the excuse of protecting the German minority there.

Cheap excuses for their illegalities and crimes. Thats all there is to it.

[bg_turk]

The situation is not as simple as Turkey "farting" and Cyprus disappering. International public opinion and Cyprus EU membership compicate matters immensely.

Let us assume for the sake of argument that Turkish troops are tomorrow to withdraw from the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. What happens next? One dark, moonless night Greek Cypriots initiate a blitz-krieg, occupy the TRNC and subjugate TCs.

Next day we will hear on BBC and CNN is how Cyprus has been liberated and the EU might make a few noises about massacres against TCs here and there, but takes no action to safeguard them. They all end up like Turks in Greece.

What will be Turkey supposed to do? How will Turkey get back to the island without drawing international condemnation?

A troop withdrawal would be the silliest move from a geopolitical perspective, no Turkish government would ever take such a decision, without first securing political guarantees for Turkish Cypriots. The troops are the best deterrant to a Greek Cypriot invasion of the north.

[bg_turk]

They are just giving cheap excuses to occupy part of our country. Just like Hitler in WWII that he invaded and occupied Czechoslovakia with the excuse of protecting the German minority there.

Poor analogy, but even if it were a valid one, it is another reason as to why the TCs should cling onto the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. When Czechs reclaimed the territories occupied by Hitler, they expelled all 3.2 million Germans from Sudetenland and shipped them back to Germany.

Check this out:
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/script ... esg00.html

[Piratis]

When Czechs reclaimed the territories occupied by Hitler, they expelled all 3.2 million Germans from Sudetenland and shipped them back to Germany.

So did the German minority gain anything in the end by siding with foreign invaders against the sovereignty of their country?

Telling to TCs to insist on illegalities and crimes, and keep saying that "TCs and GCs can not live together" is exactly the way that will make TCs have the fate of those Germans.

Instead your advice to them should have been to stop supporting the illegal Turkish occupation of Cyprus, to accept democracy and human rights for all Cypriots without racist discriminations, and to accept that all Cypriots can live together on this island without the practices of land grab and ethnic cleansing that TCs currently support.

[EUropean666]

I guess that turks can not live without their army. They prefer to have a military controlled republic rather than an EUropean-like democracy. In case that you want to join EUrope you shall know that it is the constitution that guarantees , not the army according to the Kemalist cult.

Turkey is an islamist country and islam is a threat for free world. Islamists want to conquere the whole world like the ottoman barbaric hordes did few hundred years ago.

[Piratis]

Let us assume for the sake of argument that Turkish troops are tomorrow to withdraw from the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. What happens next? One dark, moonless night Greek Cypriots initiate a blitz-krieg, occupy the TRNC and subjugate TCs.

The Turkish troops will be replaced with the troops of Republic of Cyprus, part of which TCs are.

There will be no massacres or anything else. The massacres of 10s of thousands of people within days were performed by the Turks, who unfortunately are still stuck in those middle age practices.

In contrast the GCs have never performed such massacres and genocides like the Turks did. All the Turkish propaganda has against us are the few 100s of TCs that died during the intercommunal conflict, the same conflict that about a same number of GCs died as well! And they are keeping using that tiny part of history to demonize GCs as an excuse for the continuation of their crimes in Cyprus.

Cyprus has now progressed even more and is a member of EU. Saying that GCs will go and massacre TCs if the illegal occupation of Cyprus ends is the lamest excuse ever.

The only way that TCs will be inevitably harmed is if a peaceful solution is not found and we will have to wait for a shift in the balance of power to liberate our country by war.

[bg_turk]

I guess that turks can not live without their army.

Yup. We love our army.

Islamists want to conquere the whole world like the ottoman barbaric hordes did few hundred years ago.

Inshaaaaallaaaaah all the world is going to become Islamic (Digenis-Acritas is this you again?)

[Viewpoint]

Let us assume for the sake of argument that Turkish troops are tomorrow to withdraw from the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. What happens next? One dark, moonless night Greek Cypriots initiate a blitz-krieg, occupy the TRNC and subjugate TCs.

The Turkish troops will be replaced with the troops of Republic of Cyprus, part of which TCs are.

There will be no massacres or anything else. The massacres of 10s of thousands of people within days were performed by the Turks, who unfortunately are still stuck in those middle age practices.

In contrast the GCs have never performed such massacres and genocides like the Turks did. All the Turkish propaganda has against us are the few 100s of TCs that died during the intercommunal conflict, the same conflict that about a same number of GCs died as well! And they are keeping using that tiny part of history to demonize GCs as an excuse for the continuation of their crimes in Cyprus.

Cyprus has now progressed even more and is a member of EU. Saying that GCs will go and massacre TCs if the illegal occupation of Cyprus ends is the lamest excuse ever.

The only way that TCs will be inevitably harmed is if a peaceful solution is not found and we will have to wait for a shift in the balance of power to liberate our country by war.

How will you guarantee this? What will happen if a conflict occurs between our communities?