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[Piratis]

And please stop asking me to declare the TRNC as illegal, because I never will.

Why do you think I care what you declare?

The pseudo puppet state of Turkey in the areas they illegally occupy is illegal. Simple fact. Now declare whatever you want.

I am atheist but i conside myself as part of the free world and that the free world's existence is in threat from those sick islamic terrorists.

I don't feel threatened by "Islamic terrorists". The threat comes from the USA and their allies who are trying to rule the world.
Those are the ones who feed the Islamic fundamentalism since after the collapse of the USSR they need a new enemy that will excuse their military presence and their spying facilities all over the world. (they peed their pants to go against China, so they went against the Arabs who are an easier target and have lots of oil as well)

[Viewpoint]

How will you guarantee this? What will happen if a conflict occurs between our communities?

In the same way that is guranteened in every other country.

Troops?

GC Troops?

TC & GC Troops?

UN

Just like the 1960s?

[Viewpoint]

VP , The huge majority of G/Cs will ensure , along with the EU that all our citizens are safe and that Cyprus will become a peaceful nation as it is its nature. Please dont forget that we do not have a history of violence and murders.The only time we stood up and demanded our rights was in the 50s against the British. Nowhere in our history have we exhibited sadistic trends. It is time that you change your tune and accepted that the extreme views that you so eloquently express are destructive and partitionist .

Please come live here on the island and then you can decide on whether its as you believe. Things have changed we have been divided to long and do not posses the ability of the will to reunite or we would done it a long time ago.

[bg_turk]

Why do you think I care what you declare?

The pseudo puppet state of Turkey in the areas they illegally occupy is illegal. Simple fact. Now declare whatever you want.

Of course my declarations are worthless. What I say or do not say in this forum hardly affects anything whatsoever. I realized this long time ago, but have you? You are making GC propaganda with the same passion as you did one year ago. Do you not realize that your posts here will not affect world opinion nor the outcome of the Cyprus problem in any way whatsoever?

[Piratis]

GC propaganda? No my firend, I am just stating some facts to the lies that you are trying to pass. I don't think they will affect the outcome of anything. I just feel that information should be correct when somebody looks for it.

The Security Council,

Having heard the statement of the Foreign Minister of the Government of the Republic of Cyprus,

Concerned at the declaration by the Turkish Cypriot authorities issued on 15 November 1983 which purports to create in independent state in northern Cyprus,

Considering that this declaration is incompatible with the 1960 Treaty concerning the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus and the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee,

Considering therefore that the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" is invalid, and will contribute to a worsening of the situation in Cyprus,

Reaffirming its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975),

Aware of the need of a solution to the Cyprus problem, based on the mission of good offices undertaken by the Secretary-General,

Affirming its continued support for the United Nations Peace- keeping Force in Cyprus,

Taking note of the Secretary-Generals statement of 17 November 1983,

1. Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Considers the declaration refereed to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;

3. Calls for the urgent and effective implementation of its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975);

4. Requests the Secretary-General to peruse his mission of good offices in order to achieve the earliest possible progress toward a just and lasting settlement in Cyprus;

5. Calls upon the parties to co-operate with the Secretary- General in his mission of good offices;

6. Calls upon all states to respect the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and non-alignment of the Republic of Cyprus;

7. Calls upon all states not to recognize any Cypriot state other than the Republic of Cyprus;

8. Calls upon all states and the two communities in Cyprus to refrain from any action which might exacerbate the situation;

9. Requests the Secretary-General to keep the Security Council fully informed.

GC propaganda?

[bg_turk]

GC propaganda? No my firend, I am just stating some facts to the lies that you are trying to pass.

Someone once wisely said there are truths on this side Pyranees, which are falsehoods on the other. I really do not feel like enterring another pointless discussion with you, just keep reciting your truths.

[Issy1956]

Piratis,
"The Turkish troops will be replaced with the troops of Republic of Cyprus, part of which TCs are".
You live in a dream world. I very much doubt that the TC will accept troops of Republic of Cyprus, even if part of whom are TCs. No way. Anyay I though we were going to be a demilitarised island werent we. Why do we need an army at all if we have peace? Small contigent of Turkish troops in a base as well as a small contigent of Greek Troops in a base and only a Cypriot police force to police their respective bicommnunal bizonal areas. And no secret armies this time. Do you agree?

[Piratis]

Someone once wisely said there are truths on this side Pyranees, which are falsehoods on the other. I really do not feel like enterring another pointless discussion with you, just keep reciting your truths.

"my truths"?? What I am saying are noting more than simple facts. Nobody apart from you denies the illegality of the Turkish puppet state in Cyprus.

Anyay I though we were going to be a demilitarised island werent we. Why do we need an army at all if we have peace? Small contigent of Turkish troops in a base as well as a small contigent of Greek Troops in a base and only a Cypriot police force to police their respective bicommnunal bizonal areas. And no secret armies this time. Do you agree?

I agree for a complete demilitarization. What I don't like is that in Cyprus we can have Turkish troops, Greek troops, British troops but no Cypriot troops. If we are going to demilitarize Cyprus then lets do it the right way - no troops at all.

[EUropean666]

no troops at all..

[Kifeas]

Piratis,
"The Turkish troops will be replaced with the troops of Republic of Cyprus, part of which TCs are".
You live in a dream world. I very much doubt that the TC will accept troops of Republic of Cyprus, even if part of whom are TCs. No way. Anyay I though we were going to be a demilitarised island werent we. Why do we need an army at all if we have peace? Small contigent of Turkish troops in a base as well as a small contigent of Greek Troops in a base and only a Cypriot police force to police their respective bicommnunal bizonal areas. And no secret armies this time. Do you agree?

What about a combined force of contingents from various EU countries plus Turkey and Cyprus (TCs and GCs together,) which will all function under the roof and the command of the Peace and security Alliance (a combined EU /Nato pact currently under way of formulation and establishment?) For example, we may have such a combined force of fully equipped professional troops, (say around 7-8 thousand in numbers,) 1,000 of which will be from Turkey, 1,000 from Greece, 1,000 from the UK, 1,000 from France, 1,000 from a mixture of 2-3 other European countries, and another 2 -3 thousand from the two communities in Cyprus (say 2,000 GCs and 1,000 TCs.) The entire force will be under one command -that of the above mentioned pact, and will have as its purpose to guarantee the internal and external security and sovereignty of the whole of Cyprus, plus it will act as a force to promote the peace and security interests of the above EU /Nato alliance pact in the region (recent case of Lebanon in mind for example.) No one single country of those contributing forces in the above combined force will have the right to unilaterally use its participating contingent for any other purpose than the one specified. There will be a provision that if in the future the climate of trust in the relations of the two communities is improved, the Cypriot portion or element of this force is increased and the non-Cypriot element is decreased, and perhaps one day it becomes a completely Cypriot professional military force.