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[MehmedII]

Firstly , wanna say that; there is no bad purpose here to add this article to here.It is just inform u to decrease your islam phobia & make u realize your wrong thoughts about Turks.

Turkey has problems with its all non-muslim neighbour countries.And Turkey is the only country in the world which is in this condition.
If one they we solve this problems, it will be with good relations between turkish & greek youth.

>Why, what for Turks made conquests under named ''Jehad'' along the history?Are Turks so crazy?These lands with full of Turkisg bastards with long beards and strange clothing with scarfs as you guess? or you are just prejeduced because of the writings which u read bad about Turkey?
There are many books in turkish which are talking bad about greece.But i dont want to take a look to them.Because i have to do so if i want to get along with my neihgbours.Because most of them just provacations.To provake Turkish people to greeks.
I dont want to watch any more wars between muslims & christians.
I just want to f_ck the people who work to provake us to you & provake europeans to muslims.

MehmedII's Ferman
In 1478, to Bosnia:

After Sultan Mehmed the Conqueror had invaded Bosnia, he offered the locals, religious freedom as a result of Ottoman governmental policies. In his firman (1478) addressed to the Latin priests, Mehmed the Conqueror says:

"I Sultan Mehmed Han, All the people from lower and upper classes should know that, I order this to the Bosnian priests who are carrying this firman that: No one shall disturb or interfere with those priests or their churches. All the people who are unaware of this order or all the people who run away from my country can come to our lands and to their churches. Neither me nor my viziers shall disturb those people. I sware on the name of Allah, on the name of Mohammed, on the names of seven holy books, on the names of 124.000 prophets and on sword I wore, no one shall oppose those priests who will obbey my authority and who will serve my country."

As it is seen in the pertinant firman, all the minorities living under Ottoman rule had enjoyed freedom equally.

MehmedII

[MehmedII]

Middle of the World, Istanbul
World's Most Beautiful City


Turkey is a bridge between Europe& Asia
Turkey is a bridge between Islam & Christianity
Fatih Sultan Mehmed Bridge,Istanbul,Turkey

[EUropean666]

Oh yes, Islam is a religion of Peace. They were buddhist anarchists the ones who droped planes to WTC! I guess if Islam and Ottomans have conquered the world few centuries ago now we would not have pc or the Internet but we would be back to cavess.

Why the turks invaded Europe and they Byzantine empire? Why Mehmed the jihadi killed so many christians and forced many others to convert to this silly dogma? I guess Mehmed said the same just before butchering 15,000 civilians who found refugee in st.sophia in constantinople when the barbarians conquered Constantinople and they turned christian temples on mosques.

If you want peace leave the places that you conquered and go back to wherever you came from. I am sure that you will in peace with the talebans in aghanistan. You share the same ideas moreover about the so-called peadophile prophet. Was it 14 years old Aisha when she married the so called prophet?

Just to remind you some quote from the unholy book

Quran 52:24 Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.

Also in Surah 76:19 Allah promises fresh youths to Muslim men.

And round about them shall go youths never altering in age; when you see them you will think them to be scattered pearls.

check some good islamic pictures
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/4.htm

and some cartoons with the so called "prophet"
http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2006/02/infi ... ed_04.html

now go on and discuss something that has to do with Cyprus. That is not a an ottoman forum nor a Jehadi web site. Go to a site and discuss with yer friends on how you will make bombs and kill innocents.

By the way.. what happened to the largest christian church in constantinople? Did anyone sign a treaty of surrender since 1453? No it is city under muslim occupation

[MehmedII]

we would not have pc or the Internet but we would be back to cavess.

''Fall Of the Constantinople''
22 APRIL 1453:
70 Turkish Ships Transported Overland

this was the technology in Ottoman Turkey before all europe become united to f_ck us.

arabs were walking around of the deserts while we did this.

[EUropean666]

Uh yeah...i forgot..you invented the wheel, I guess looming, killnig and converting the poor infidels to this sick religion were a good motives for this bunch of barbarians... Xerxes had done it in the persian wars and many other nations used wheels to move their boats to the land.

I can say that turks were very innovative, instead of dealing with issues of minority they were exterinate them. Can you remind us what happened to the people of Constantinople?

[MehmedII]

u thought that we are barbarian as much as your fathers.
but we didnt to anything by force.

if istanbul is a turkish city today, it is your mistake.
everyone had reasons to make wars.But our reasons were more reasonable than Usa; )
ya allah bismillah allahu akbar

[EUropean666]

So what was the reason for making wars and threating europe? was it a jihad or not?

[MehmedII]

there was some problems between ottoman empire & constantinople.if you read it from turkish sources, u can understand what i mean.( i didnt see any writing in turkish sources which speak ill of it's enemies.)

But Ottoman Empire was really desire to conquest Istanbul.Because it was really very very beautiful city.
And Ottoman Empire trying to find some reasons to do this.(We didnt damage to anyone without reasons)
And MehmedII did it.After erased constantinople from the map, Europe tryed to (especially Italy & Austria) help to Byzantine Empire.So we had to make war with them.We were getting a victory but a strong army of Polish Empire helped them.If they didnt help to them in 1400-1500, today Austria & Italy are would be Turkish lands as Istanbul too.

[garthur]

Apologies here, but I have to intervene!!

For heaven's sake does it matter who went where and when? Yes the attack on the WTC was horrendous - more so perhaps because of the technology involved that allowed the world to witness it as it happened. But it was the work of zealots, not ordinary muslims!

What about the atrocities committed in the name of christianity? Here in England there were those in history who took great pleasure in killing and torturing ordinary people simply because they did not follow the same "religious" path.
What about the Spanish and the atrocities that were committed in the Americas in the name of christianity?

How about the Holy Wars and Richard the Lion-heart etc., etc., etc.
How about the Northern Ireland conflicts - the nail bombs, the shootings, the massacres of ordinary people just because they weren't of the same sect of a religion?
And, as a christian, are we not instructed by Jesus to remove the beam of wood from our own eye before we attempt to remove the splinter from our brother's?
Did Mohammed not teach us to accept others as they were, as it was their choice if they did not follow Allah?

The two of you are continuing to drag out this futile war between two sets of beliefs.
We will never achieve any form of harmony in this world until we learn to tolerate and respect the differences between us.
Maybe, instead of looking for the differences between us and focussing on them, we should look at what things in our lives are the same. Do we not all bleed if we are cut? Have we not all got families and loved ones? Have we not all known the gift of laughter and the sorrow of grief?

For the sake of this planet and all of us who inhabit it, we have to work towards understanding. That understanding should begin with our self - we should look inside and begin to question those beliefs and behaviours that have been "bred" into us.
At the moment of birth and at the moment of death we are all the same. Our belief systems come from what we learn throughout our lives - it is not until we are breathing our last that we realize how unimportant and many of those beliefs actually are - at the end of our lives we must face ourselves before we face our god.

Please let peace start here. Get to know each other and not condemn. Try to listen openly to each other and not allow pre-conceived beliefs and ideas to cloud that listening.

That's all.
Love
Glenys

[EUropean666]

A good starting point is to stop sending irrelevant stuff and pointless threads. you can join your friend to ottoman.tr or to www.we-hate-jews-and-we-want-to-make-eu ... iphate.org

I guess that Rome is also a nice city, and Venice as well but i dont think of conquer it and turn its ppl to islam. Aisha was a also "a very very beatiful girl" that's why Mo married her (it is on the quran).