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[EUropean666]

Greece won in 87, then came 6th in mundobasket and second in eurobasket in 89. Greece did some good games in euro 2004 but i insist that they are overvalued since most of them are now unemployed like Tsartas. Greek football needs to stop asking for money from the state and get rid of the mafia that governs it.

[Alexis]

Euro is just a tournament. I dont like having football as the king of sports in greece, taking lot of funds and offering almost nothing comparing to other sports. Greek footballers are getting lot of money comparing to what they offer.

There I agree. Although are you sure that football isn't the biggest sport in Greece? After all sport is about crowd attendance, so if football has the biggest attendances shouldn't they also get the best pay etc...I agree that footballers pay is overinflated but this isn't just because of the Greek govt. Football is so big in Europe and we have events such as the Champions League/Euro Cup/UEFA Cup etc... so there is a lot of money going round in the game which results in clubs getting rich and consequently the players being paid more.

[laptanige]

ENGLAND 4 GREECE 0

The result says it all

[EUropean666]

@ Alexis

I enjoy watching quality football and i dont support any team. But talking about the masses...hitler used to talk on masses and big audiences but this does not make him a good politician.

Greek baseball games (greece former EU champ and 2nd in 2004) were sold out during the olympic games. I think that it has to do with media. Greek football games are not played on big audience. Having 300-400 ppl on every game does not make it popular. Well it is only for 3-4 clubs that have the support of low quality media and uneducated ppl. Those 3-4 clubs are attracting most of funs. I ve been on some games and i really got disgusted. most of them were on drugs or having low mental capabilities if u know what i mean.

I only like Skoda Xanthi bcoz of its fair management and investments with good returns.

Why nobody mentioned the sucess of the greek basketball team to acropolis and stankovic tournament? They did some great job and it is obvious that kids want to play basketball.

[Alexis]

Greek baseball games (greece former EU champ and 2nd in 2004) were sold out during the olympic games. I think that it has to do with media. Greek football games are not played on big audience. Having 300-400 ppl on every game does not make it popular. Well it is only for 3-4 clubs that have the support of low quality media and uneducated ppl. Those 3-4 clubs are attracting most of funs. I ve been on some games and i really got disgusted. most of them were on drugs or having low mental capabilities if u know what i mean.

Didn't realise that attendances were so low. If that is the case perhaps the Greek govt really should re-assess where they put their money. Certainly I have seen hooliganism rear its ugly head in Cyprus and have been told that similar situation is happening in Greece so that is something the clubs/Greek FA/govt really ought to address. Evenso Greece is and always has been a reelatively big player in the champion's league, with usually at least one automatic place in the champion's league. This has the effect of injecting money into the sport since there are audiences outside Greece that end up watching matches with Greek teams involved. That is half the problem there because even if Greek audiences are poor, clubs will get money from the large european audiences.

[Simon]

[quote]So u say that the european cups from athletics, water polo, softball, baseball and other sports are not so important as football is? [/quote]

When did I ever say this? What are you talking about? Not the same thing as me I think.

[quote]You say about match fixing..just to remind you two games, panionios dinamo tiflis and Aigaleo last year's games to intertoto. UEFA is making an inquiry on both teams. Everyone knows that greek games are fixed, thats why none bothers to watch them. [/quote]

An inquiry! This means no-one is found guilty yet then - innocent until proven guilty. Anyway, this proves my point, all football is corrupt because it is all about money - it is not just in Greece!

[quote]When you are champ you gotta prove and now the greek side is rubbish. At the same time they got some huge bonus and prizes while the basketball team relied only on its sponsorships and did not ask for any huge bonuses from the state. The real champs are all those athletes who have won european prizes and they havent received a penny from the state. Like i said they were lucky and the other sides were tired or not interested. After few months they lost from albania and they hardly won kazkstan. that's a fact!!! Winning a tournament doesnt make you a champ. You gotta prove all the time like the basketball boys. [/quote]

What an absolute load of rubbish! It is clear that you are resentful against football because it is bigger than basketball - my answer is: Get over it! Greece are Euro Champions and they proved this by winning the tournament. It does not matter how poor they are afterwards, in that tournament they played the best teams and beat them - therefore they are deserved winners.

For example, are Italy all of a sudden not world champions just because they lost to Croatia last night? Of course not! What about France after they won the World Cup losing to teams like Senegal? How can you say the other teams were tired? This is pathetic. They were all playing in a major tournament, so why was it that only the Greek players were not tired? If they were simply fitter, then they deserve to be champions on this basis anyway. Not interested? This says it all for your lack of knowledge on football. Not interesed in winning the European Championships? LOL If winning the tournament does not make you the Champ - NOTHING DOES.

Alexis I agree with you. In football, anyone is capable of beating anyone. This has been proved over and over again.

To the 4-0 beating. I admit Greece were awful in the first half. The second half was much better though and Greece had 4 great chances to score and could have made a real game of it. Unfortunately, failure to take chances cost them. They badly need to sort out their defence though. The defending was pathetic at times. Perhaps it is time for a new manager before the Euros? Greece are definitely not the force they were back in 2004 and they need to sort it out.

[Simon]

[quote]ENGLAND 4 GREECE 0

The result says it all[/quote]

That's rich coming from a country who just managed to beat the worst team in the world - Luxembourg 1-0. When is the last time Turkey won a major tournament? And why is Turkey playing such poor opposition?

[caveman]

Why don't you all grow up. It's football not politics or religion. Just enjoy or don't bother watching.

[EUropean666]

I enjoy watching greek basketball..at least i know that those boys have not wasted taxpayers money.

it really pisses me off that for example.. the greek ice hockey team has to train to bulgaria bcoz the two ice arenas were demolished. In one case a skiladiko was built instead and they wanted to bring down pentathlon installations to goudi along with the park (some junkies-panathinaikos fans called it mpaza) to build panathinaikos stadium. It pisses me off the treatment towards football in greece.

concerning the allegations, UEFA's investigators said to Tsimas that they are pretty sure for a fixing game regrading the case of panionios and there is a call for mpeos to uefa that is pending. Probably the mafiozo wont go to testify

[saravakos]

EUropean666, you're delusional if you think Euro 2004 was lucky. during the qualifying stage we came top above spain beating them 1-0 on their own turf as well. we played to a system in euro04 and it worked. portugal the hosts got owned twice, as did the favourites france then the new favourites the czechs. everyone needs a bit of luck and we got that in the russia game, but we deserved to win that tournament.

if you cant see that you know nothing about football.