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Postby MehmedII » Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:28 pm

I am a Turk.
And i still dont know Why There is a cyprus problem in Cyprus island.

I am a %50 greek as most of you.Because most of you.
There is just one difference between you and me.
Pontian greeks showed tolerance to Ottoman Turks.But u didnt.
You didnt accept an islamic government in greek lands.But today, mosques & chruchs side by side in Istanbul.

If you think that it is impossible to live with muslims,
read some about Endulusia Empire of Europe.

Many turkish people died for Cyprus.
You always doing same thing.You see, how many innocent people died in Gallipoli in 1915.
Those People have to live in peace under this turkish flag!Maybe they are orginally armenian,kurdish,pontian,greek,cypriot,romanian,bulgarian...They are citizens of this country.If you ask Why turkish flag, because we dont despise Jesus as you despise Mohammed & Mohammedians!
We didnt need a belt like Zonnar :!:
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Postby cadaunovera » Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:48 pm

Oh :shock: and i was glad cz i thought "SHAVED BEARD GROWS TICKER" would have been your last post ... :?
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Postby Marz » Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:50 pm

Your attitude is why there is a problem, and its its obvious in your words, the same attitude that all turks have towardds us all thats why theres a problem.
They way you speak is as if to say you are superior to us and we should just accept it. Yoy dont give us the same respect back, so we dont give it back to you. Your a bloody idiot go F- yourself.
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Postby MehmedII » Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:02 pm

If there is problem between X & Y, i read both X's & y's sources about the problem.Than i decide there is problem or not.
At the other hand, it is not fair to take side.

Your a bloody idiot go F- yourself.

My words could be annoying for u.But you must be patient as much as me as i was patient when i saw that annoying map with a bird on Turkish lands of cyprus on your signature.

BE PATIENT Mr. Civilized European.
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Postby cadaunovera » Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:30 pm

My words could be annoying for u.But you must be patient as much as me as i was patient when i saw that annoying map with a bird on Turkish lands of cyprus on your signature.


Are you talking about this pic?..I like it :)

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And btw u meant "the occupied Cyprus" and not "turkish land of Cyprus" didnt you?Cz there is no turkish land on this island. :wink:
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Postby Natty » Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:40 pm

Thats completely the kind of attitude thats going to get us nowhere.....:(
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Postby Natty » Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:41 pm

Pontian greeks showed tolerance to Ottoman Turks.But u didnt


Then why was there no record of violence between GC's and TC's before late 1950's/60's?
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:28 pm

wrote: Listen me Cyprus!


Please don’t shout. 8)

MehmedII wrote: Pontian greeks showed tolerance to Ottoman Turks.


Tolerance in what? To be genocited? :evil:
In case you never heard: 1.5 million Pontian Greeks were the first killed by the Young Turks of Ataturk. :wink:
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Postby Natty » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:49 pm

150. It is essential to be clear what this proposal implies. To refer to it simply as "federation" is to oversimplify the matter. What is involved is not merely to establish a federal form of government but also to secure the geographical separation of the two communities. The establishment of a federal regime requires a territorial basis, and this basis does not exist. In an earlier part of this report, I explained the island-wide intermingling in normal times of the Greek-Cypriot and Turkish-Cypriot populations


153. In the first place, the separation of the communities is utterly unacceptable to the majority community of Cyprus and on present indications could not be imposed except by force. The opposition to it is in part political: Greek-Cypriots see in the proposal a first step towards the partitioning of the island, although this is vigorously denied by the Turkish-Cypriot leadership as well as by the Turkish Government. But to my mind the objections raised also on economic, social and moral grounds are in themselves serious obstacles to the proposition. It would seem to require a compulsory movement of the people concerned -- many thousands on both sides -- contrary to all the enlightened principles of the present time, including those set forth in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Moreover, this would be a compulsory movement of a kind that would seem likely to impose severe hard ships on the families involved as it would be impossible for all of them, or perhaps even the majority of them, to obtain an exchange of land or occupation suited to their needs or experience; it would entail also an economic and social disruption which could be such as to render neither part of the country viable. Such a state of affairs would constitute a lasting if not permanent, cause of discontent and unrest.

154. Moreover, the proposed federated States would be separated by an artificial line cutting through interdependent parts of homogeneous areas including, according to the Turkish-Cypriot proposals, the cities of Nicosia and Famagusta. Would not such a line of division inevitably create many administrative difficulties and constitute a constant cause of friction between two mutually suspicious populations? In fact, the arguments for the geographical separation of the two communities under a federal system of government have not convinced me that it would not inevitably lead to partition and thus risk creating a new national frontier between Greece and Turkey, a frontier of a highly provocative nature, through highly volatile peoples who would not hesitate to allow their local differences to risk involving the two home countries in conflict and consequently endangering international peace and security.

155. Again, if the purpose of a settlement of the Cyprus question is to be the preservation rather than the destruction of the State, and if it is to foster rather than to militate against the development of a peacefully united people, I cannot help wondering whether the physical division of the minority from the majority should not be considered a desperate step in the wrong direction. I am reluctant to believe, as the Turkish-Cypriot leadership claims, in the "impossibility" of Greek-Cypriots and Turkish-Cypriots learning to live together again in peace. In those parts of the country where movement controls have been relaxed and tensions reduced, they are already proving other- wise.


Hey, I just wanted to add these quotes, from the first UN report on Cyprus (Gala Plaza) about the plans for partition, and the 'allegation' of 'impossibility' of Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots living together (mingling), and living together in peace, made by the TC leadership. Something that, it is clear from this report did happen!! (If that makes sense :) )

Peace!! :)
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Postby Marz » Mon Aug 14, 2006 12:44 am

This is how i see just because Turks came in to the country and other Turks are born in Cyprus they call them themselfs Cypriot now, but they still are turks, because if they really call themselfs Cypriot then they will live on the island under the True Cypriot rule, and they will have all the rights GC's have, and thats the way it was before, its just that you dont accept us but we have to accept you. thats why things are the way they are. To me Turks are very caniving and not trustworthy from my experiences.

im sure if there were a million Jews living in Turkey, and then they started their dirty tactics on Turkey asking for special rights, to be united to gether and Turks and Jews together, even if they were treated equally to any other person before they come into your country.
Anyway you know what i mean, im sure you would have the same reaction as we do to Turks in Cyprus.
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