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Postby anastasiaC » Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:28 am

Limassolean wrote:
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andri_cy wrote:.......a woman has no self respect if she is sleeping around then it goes the same for the man.


I'm not saying its right but in the words of RUN DMC, "it's like that, and thats the way it is".[/color]


I think women here at this forum choose to misintrepet what was the issue here.


It is diferent to be sleeping around with different people and it is different if you have an occassional stray from the matrimonial knot because of necessity.

i ask that you read and understand the issue raised here


huh???
what necessity?
have u heard of Mrs palmer and her five daughters.......
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Postby G.Man » Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:22 am

anastasiaC wrote:I think each to their own but personally I think its wrong to brand a woman a whore for having one night stands and a man a stud for doing the same thing
I think casual sex is wrong anyway.......its such an intimate act, such a personal connection and to just do it with anyone for me is wrong.......
society still has such a double standard on this issue but who are we to judge anyway..........


Agreed, she is only a whore if she charges for it...

The rest of it is down to our own belief structures... if you have been conditioned to think a connection is required then that is what you will look for before sex, others look just for sex, and hope to find a long term connection along the way...

There is no doubt for me that the best sex comes from an intimate relationship with someone you can discuss anything with... including what you like in bed...

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Postby andri_cy » Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:57 am

anastasiaC wrote:I think each to their own but personally I think its wrong to brand a woman a whore for having one night stands and a man a stud for doing the same thing
I think casual sex is wrong anyway.......its such an intimate act, such a personal connection and to just do it with anyone for me is wrong.......
society still has such a double standard on this issue but who are we to judge anyway..........


spot on Anastasia
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:39 am

I'm coming a little bit late into this conversation, regarding sex and relationships. We need to understand, that sex is natural where relationships may not be.??? Sex is required through out our "animal kingdom", in particularly to those that belong to the "Mammal Species", which we do, for the continuation of the species. The rules are very very simple. Males being larger in size, is meant to dominate the female to pass on his genes, and move on to the next female . The female will accept his genes with no questions asked, because her "sexual blue prints" is to be maternal. I know you will all be saying, "we're not animals, we are civilized and intelligent humans". Yes, that is true, but, with everything a modern human has done to change his existence from the early development of being a primate, we have not changed the basic "blue print" on sexuality with the rest of the animal kingdom.

So, committed relationships and marriages are imposed on us by religion and societal pressures. To achieve this, they needed to control the females "sexual needs" by shaming her, unless she exercised her sexuality in a committed relationship. As our society moves further away from religion, as it has been the case for the last half century or so, young ladies want to exercise their "maternal instincts", that is in their "sexual blue print". Biologically they are doing what's natural, but in the eyes of the "religious society", they are "whores". To be crude, "if she is old enough to bleed, she is old enough to breed". That is the rules of nature, and not mine. Someone once said, " but Ducks have a committed relationship (monogamous) with each other", in which I replied, "well, that's because they don't live long enough to be bored with each other".

So, extra marital affaires, cheating on ones partner will continue, because of our "sexual blue print" that is within us all.
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Postby anastasiaC » Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:50 am

sorry Kikapu but thats bullshit
sex is pleasureable we all agree but why cant we got for it (like animals) with our partner/husband/wife??

do we really need to have extra marital affairs for it to be good sex??
sorry bu I just dont agree with that..........
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:07 am

anastasiaC wrote:sorry Kikapu but thats bullshit
sex is pleasureable we all agree but why cant we got for it (like animals) with our partner/husband/wife??

do we really need to have extra marital affairs for it to be good sex??
sorry bu I just dont agree with that..........


I gave you what I think is our "sexual blue print". Just because you're in a committed relationship, does not mean you don't want to have sex with another person, and many people do, have done and will do again. I don't think you quite understand the male sexual drive. Don't tell me we're all here today because of "love", because love has nothing to do with sex. And please, don't ask you husbands or your boyfriends, whether they would like to have sex with another woman, while they are with you, because he is going to tell you a lie, by saying "of course not dear".
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Postby GG » Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:25 pm

anastasiaC wrote:do we really need to have extra marital affairs for it to be good sex??
sorry bu I just dont agree with that..........



I totally respect and like your way of thinking and it shows you have good uprbringing and values. But you can't deny that just like all human beings we are attracted to danger and to taboo's and generally to all the things that we are told we shouldn't do. The forbidden fruit and all that.

Sex with danger is always attractive whether it be sex in public places or whether it be sex with married people or sex with people of different race or colour. I think when/if I ever get married I will do my best to keep it as 'interesting' as possible.
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Postby anastasiaC » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:24 pm

GG- Exactly!!!
you need to keep it interesting....marriage is hard work but to committ to it then thats what u have to do....give and take...simple concept!!

Kikapu - again, u have just set another double standard
why do u claim or think the male sex drive is more so than the female sex drive??
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Postby TaraT » Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:37 pm

Kikapu wrote:I'm coming a little bit late into this conversation, regarding sex and relationships. We need to understand, that sex is natural where relationships may not be.??? Sex is required through out our "animal kingdom", in particularly to those that belong to the "Mammal Species", which we do, for the continuation of the species. The rules are very very simple. Males being larger in size, is meant to dominate the female to pass on his genes, and move on to the next female . The female will accept his genes with no questions asked, because her "sexual blue prints" is to be maternal. I know you will all be saying, "we're not animals, we are civilized and intelligent humans". Yes, that is true, but, with everything a modern human has done to change his existence from the early development of being a primate, we have not changed the basic "blue print" on sexuality with the rest of the animal kingdom.

So, committed relationships and marriages are imposed on us by religion and societal pressures. To achieve this, they needed to control the females "sexual needs" by shaming her, unless she exercised her sexuality in a committed relationship. As our society moves further away from religion, as it has been the case for the last half century or so, young ladies want to exercise their "maternal instincts", that is in their "sexual blue print". Biologically they are doing what's natural, but in the eyes of the "religious society", they are "whores". To be crude, "if she is old enough to bleed, she is old enough to breed". That is the rules of nature, and not mine. Someone once said, " but Ducks have a committed relationship (monogamous) with each other", in which I replied, "well, that's because they don't live long enough to be bored with each other".

So, extra marital affaires, cheating on ones partner will continue, because of our "sexual blue print" that is within us all.


This is always the same lame argument men give to rationalize their cheating and try to dominate women and place the woman in the 'role' that she must be. You think being bigger and physically stronger gives you the right to tell a woman what role she must play and accept your seed without question! Hahahahahaha.

Humans are vastly different than the animal kingdom on which you base your sexual blueprint. Relationships are natural and so is love. We might not be wired to be in the same relationship or in love with the same person always but humans seek out relationships.

I have not met any man who feels that a one night stand is as satisfying as sex with someone they love.

The fact is that men are constantly under the influence of a drug called testosterone. Men CAN control themselves but CHOOSE not to. You make it sound like you are helpless. Hahahahaha. What bullshit.
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:49 am

TaraT wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I'm coming a little bit late into this conversation, regarding sex and relationships. We need to understand, that sex is natural where relationships may not be.??? Sex is required through out our "animal kingdom", in particularly to those that belong to the "Mammal Species", which we do, for the continuation of the species. The rules are very very simple. Males being larger in size, is meant to dominate the female to pass on his genes, and move on to the next female . The female will accept his genes with no questions asked, because her "sexual blue prints" is to be maternal. I know you will all be saying, "we're not animals, we are civilized and intelligent humans". Yes, that is true, but, with everything a modern human has done to change his existence from the early development of being a primate, we have not changed the basic "blue print" on sexuality with the rest of the animal kingdom.

So, committed relationships and marriages are imposed on us by religion and societal pressures. To achieve this, they needed to control the females "sexual needs" by shaming her, unless she exercised her sexuality in a committed relationship. As our society moves further away from religion, as it has been the case for the last half century or so, young ladies want to exercise their "maternal instincts", that is in their "sexual blue print". Biologically they are doing what's natural, but in the eyes of the "religious society", they are "whores". To be crude, "if she is old enough to bleed, she is old enough to breed". That is the rules of nature, and not mine. Someone once said, " but Ducks have a committed relationship (monogamous) with each other", in which I replied, "well, that's because they don't live long enough to be bored with each other".

So, extra marital affaires, cheating on ones partner will continue, because of our "sexual blue print" that is within us all.


This is always the same lame argument men give to rationalize their cheating and try to dominate women and place the woman in the 'role' that she must be. You think being bigger and physically stronger gives you the right to tell a woman what role she must play and accept your seed without question! Hahahahahaha.

Humans are vastly different than the animal kingdom on which you base your sexual blueprint. Relationships are natural and so is love. We might not be wired to be in the same relationship or in love with the same person always but humans seek out relationships.

I have not met any man who feels that a one night stand is as satisfying as sex with someone they love.

The fact is that men are constantly under the influence of a drug called testosterone. Men CAN control themselves but CHOOSE not to. You make it sound like you are helpless. Hahahahaha. What bullshit.


Oh, TaraT, you have missed the whole damn point. If you're not a feminist, perhaps you would get it if you read it second time around. If you're a feminist, then forget about it, because you will never get it. The whole thing is about liberating women to be free with their sexuality, to be same as the men, and most women are liberated than they were few decades ago. Males of all species has only one roll in the Universe, and that is to make sure, that they can pass on their Genes as much and often as possible, to further their Species. Except of course, the male that mates with the "Black Widow Spider". He only gets one shot at it, and it better be good, because his head will be eaten by the female, soon after they mate, hence the name"Black Widow". It gives a whole new meaning to "Giving Head"!!

I'm not promoting for people to cheat, but damn it, it happens, and not only by the men, as you seem to accuse. If men are having too much sex, there has to be some of you lovely ladies around, to be having sex with. Let me tell you something, to a men who seeks a female that he wants, to him sex with her will be very satisfying, whether is a one night stand or a 5 minute stand. Nature gave the females only enough pleasure to accept the male, but gave a lot more to the male, in order to pass his Genes, to as many females as possible. Of course, today, most males do not want to produce children every time they pass on their Genes, but his "sexual blue print" dictates his actions, and not his common sense.
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