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Turkish Cypriots are no more than a minority

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Simon » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:00 pm

Issy I agree with you.

Miltiades, if 99.9% are Cypriots first and agree with you, then why do they have the Turkish flag in the north, and call the north Turkish? Why are they not protesting about 40,000 foreign troops being on their island? It is not just about trust, because this wouldn't have required them to have separated from their Cypriotness so much. Why were they so eager to adopt the Annan Plan, which clearly just stopped short of separating our island for good!

I agree with much of what you say in this post. I too want Cyprus truly reunified. You did attack me for my religious beliefs, which is unnecessary and has nothing to do with Cyprus. However, if we stick to the issue, I agree with most of what you say. However, my point is, it is not my avatar that is the problem but the 'TRNC.' If TCs really feel the way you hope, then why is the 'TRNC' still in existence? Why should GCs make all the sacrifices, while the 'TRNC' and Turkey does not give one inch? TCs in the north, like it or not, embrace the 'TRNC.' Why?
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Postby Simon » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:04 pm

Issy, I agree with you.

Miltiades, if 99.9% are Cypriots first and agree with you, then why do they have the Turkish flag in the north, and call the north Turkish? Why are they not protesting about 40,000 foreign troops being on their island? It is not just about trust, because this wouldn't have required them to have separated from their Cypriotness so much. Why were they so eager to adopt the Annan Plan, which clearly just stopped short of separating our island for good!

I agree with much of what you say in this post. I too want Cyprus truly reunified. You did attack me for my religious beliefs, which is unnecessary and has nothing to do with Cyprus. However, if we stick to the issue, I agree with most of what you say. However, my point is, it is not my avatar that is the problem but the 'TRNC.' If TCs really feel the way you hope, then why is the 'TRNC' still in existence? Why should GCs make all the sacrifices, while the 'TRNC' and Turkey does not give one inch? TCs in the north, like it or not, embrace the 'TRNC.' Why?

My avatar is not stopping any negotiations, or anything else in Cyprus for that matter. Like I said, once I see a fair proposal on the table for both sides, which we can really unite over, which signals the end of the 'TRNC', then I will gladly change my avatar.
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Postby miltiades » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:06 pm

Simon , you are right , my tolerance level , as I stated earlier is exceedingly low when dealing with absurd and nonconstructive statements , exhibitions of divisiveness and Un-Cypriot behaviour . I'm an ardent supporter of Cyprus , you may or may not have gathered but I made over 1000 posts , apart from a joke here and then , my postings reflected on my commitment to a united Cyprus . I opposed the A.P , and many of my T/CS friends perhaps found odd that I felt that way. However my right to exercise a free choice has not been harassed neither has it caused offence to those in disagreement of my choice.
The problem that you and I have had to deal with is your reluctance to let go of the foreign flag used as your avatar , a flag that the government of the republic of Cyprus officially considers a foreign flag , and in all of
Cyprus's international events , the flag shown is the Cypriot one.
You ask VP and Lyssi .
""Have you read some of his comments to others who simply disagree with him? ""

Yes I objected and reprimanded an individual on this forum for his demagoguery remarks and in the process I responded to his personal attacks just as I will respond to yours. Those who talk of war as a means to achieve a solution are demagogues and as such they must be considered. Cyprus does not belong to a handful of war mongers and neither does it belong to the 40 thousand Turkish troops , but only one major force will get those troops off our land , and guess which force this is . You ponder over this and let me know if your flag is going to make one soldier leave .
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Postby MR-from-NG » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:07 pm

Sorry I'm posting this again as it was originally posted on the wrong thread.

Simon, Miltiades,

We are Cypriots and proud to be. We are a unique race. We have all been brought up to protect the young and respect our elders.

Simon, Miltiades is my elder, he is 60 and I'm 53. I would be very upset with myself if i showed him disrespect. You both are upsetting one another unnecessarily. How about you apologise to one another and make a fresh start? As I said, we are Cypriots, we are kind, generous and forgiving people. That is true to TC's and GC's.
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Postby miltiades » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:13 pm

Well said mrfromng , let me be the first to shake young Simon's hand and profusely apologise for my derogatory remarks directed towards a belief and not his person. mrfromng , I thank you for being one of us , a Cypriot.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:19 pm

Miltiades, as always, you have my utmost respect. It is you and those like you that give us TC's hope for peace in Cyprus.

I have no doubt Simon will accept this noble gesture from you and will declare peace. Well done to you both.
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:25 pm

Simon wrote: if 99.9% are Cypriots first and agree with you.


Natty, you should have patent this number (99.9 %). You would have been a millionair by now.!!!
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Postby miltiades » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:42 pm

Sorry Natty , did not mean to pinch your line . Well spotted Kikapu , bet you are one of those 99.9% !!!
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:44 pm

miltiades wrote:Sorry Natty , did not mean to pinch your line . Well spotted Kikapu , bet you are one of those 99.9% !!!


You got that right...Baby !!
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Postby Simon » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:49 pm

I have indeed already apologised in the 'Jesus and Muhammad' thread, and I will do so again, for my outbursts. Again though I state, I respect those who respect me, regardless of age.

Miltiades, you said your tolerance level was exceedingly low. Well perhaps you need to raise it slightly, especially when it comes to spiritual beliefs. You can question my ideas all day long, I have no problem with this. I believe that my views have indeed been consistent, considering the fact that I have the 'TRNC' rammed down my throat every day. I notice that you have not answered one of my questions relating to TCs and the 'TRNC.' Again I say, once I see a fair solution on the table, I will remove the flag. Or how about they make one small token gesture at least, and I will remove my flag. The gesture can be, for them to demand that their government changes the same of their so-called state from the 'TRNC' to simply the Republic of North Cyprus ('RNC'). That way, they are removing the ethnicity divide in name at least, and are actually acting more Cypriot than Turkish, in readiness for a solution. They do this, I will remove the flag.
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