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[Piratis]

I have proof the average GC/TC can reach an agreement even on the most difficult issues of Cyprob very very easily. So why our elected leaders never agree on anything? It’s about time we bypass them!

I used to be much more optimistic before but later I came to the exact opposite conclusion than yours.

I now believe that the majority of TCs do not accept a true unification. Only a partnership between two mostly separate countries. Just like Cyprus and Lithuania are partners and "united" in EU. Thats what unity means to most TCs I believe, not a one country unity as it exists in all other democratic countries.
For most GCs unity means a true one country, one people kind of unity.

Therefore we both say we want "unity" but we mean different things, and this difference becomes obvious when we start to discuss issues. When it is apparent that the aim of the two sides is different, I doubt that any kind of negotiations or discussions will be able to bridge such a huge gab. Unless of course the GCs that participate are not a representative sample of the population but only people like Bananiot who accept partition- or if the TCs that participate are not a representative sample of TCs but instead those few that accept a true unity. But if the sample is not representative of the whole population then there is no point since any agreement will be rejected in the end anyways.

[Bananiot]

Go on Piratis, keep fighting the daemons you have created.

[bg_turk]

Bg-Turk, your last post is very cynical. Is that your reaction to GC nationalism or is it your final word?

It is cynical because it was meant to be. Sorry if it insults you.

Besides I do not understand why you are surprised by it. I have always been propartition. I have never hidden that neither in this nor in the other forum. I have always believed that the interests of Turkish Cypriots will be best served by the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

Of course I do not expect Tcs to build their prosperity on the misery of Gcs. THe TRNC must take correctice measures and territorial adjustments must be made to accomodate the desires of displaced Gcs as much as possible.

[Jerry]

What it comes down to bg-turk is would you rather live in a province of the mainland, be absorbed by Turkey and never join the EU or would you rather live in an independent Cypriot state with your rights guaranteed by the EU.

[Bananiot]

It is "understandable", I suppose, for an outsider to propose the partition of a country. I can easily call for the partition of Spain or indeed Turkey. Quite easily and effortlessly. It does not cost me anything. What hurts me is that probably the majority of my countrymen are now supporters of partition. This is the work of the Papadopoulos government which has played bad games with the mentality and psych of Greek Cypriots to the extend that the majority prefers now partition than a compromise solution.

[bg_turk]

What it comes down to bg-turk is would you rather live in a province of the mainland, be absorbed by Turkey and never join the EU or would you rather live in an independent Cypriot state with your rights guaranteed by the EU.

Just to make it clear - I am not a Turkish Cypriot.

[Jerry]

I understand that bt but the question still stands. If you were a T/C would you....etc

[miltiades]

"""Just to make it clear - I am not a Turkish Cypriot. ""

Of course you are not , if you were you have the interests of the T/Cs at heart and refrain from the usual crap that you post on the "TRNC" You may not even be a Turk , just a remnant of the Ottoman Empire.
Wake up man , here we are , Cypriots trying to save our country for the future generations of Cypriots , we don't need smart asses from Greece and Turkey meddling in our affairs for the detriment of our nation.

[bg_turk]

I understand that bt but the question still stands. If you were a T/C would you....etc

If I were a TC I'd rather keep the TRNC - an independent and democractic TRNC free of interference from Turkey. The EU cannot guarantee any minority rights. Just look at what EU member Greece is doing to its Turkish and Slavic minority.

[bg_turk]

Wake up man , here we are , Cypriots trying to save our country for the future generations of Cypriots , we don't need smart asses from Greece and Turkey meddling in our affairs for the detriment of our nation.

I am just an ordinary person, my opinion has no impact on the decision making up at the top. I do not know why you are blaming me for being detrimental to your "nation". If you love each other so much with TCs, then go ahead and unify yourselves. I am not stopping you, am I?