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Turkish Cypriots are no more than a minority

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:23 am

miltiades wrote:Piratis wrote:
"""What I say is that we should not tell those criminals any such words. We should stay calm, and carefully plan our tactics that will harm those criminals as much as possible and be prepared for the day (that will inevitably come) that the balance of power will change."""

Rouble rousing statement that does nothing to avert the prospect of a permanent division.
Don't forget that when the day comes , the change of the balance of power !!! , let us march triumphantly
to Constantinople ! along with flying pigs.

There are 3 people on this forum all highly intelligent , yet between the 3 they do not posess any sense of humour
what so ever . Not once have they showed any evidence of being human , apart from politics they have no other interests. Unless you can laugh at your self you run the risk of being seen as extremists , tell us a joke VP , Kifeas , Piratis.


3 men in a plane going down due to, to much weight

Scotsman
Frenchman
Turk

Scotsman starts to throw out malt whiskey they ask him why he say have plenty of this in Scotland.

The Frenchman throws out crates of Champagne and they ask him why he say we have plenty of this in France..

The Turk starts to throw out other Turks they ask him what the hell are you doing, he responds we have plenty of these back home... :lol:
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:27 am

miltiades wrote:
There are 3 people on this forum all highly intelligent , yet between the 3 they do not posess any sense of humour
what so ever . Not once have they showed any evidence of being human , apart from politics they have no other interests. Unless you can laugh at your self you run the risk of being seen as extremists , tell us a joke VP , Kifeas , Piratis.


There was an old faithful and god-fearing man called Miltiades and his younger brother called Mrfromng. They had one donkey and they decided to go from their village to the town with him (the donkey.) They both sat on him, and began riding to the town. A man called Viewpoint, masqueraded into a Hodja, saw them in the street and started shouting why they were both riding the poor donkey at the same time, thus making his life so miserable, against the will of god. The two brothers agreed that one should come off the donkey, and only the older of the two should be riding it. The Man appeared again, masqueraded into a different Hodja this time, and started shouting why the mature and stronger brother is on the donkey, having the child brother following on foot, contrary to the will of god. The two brothers decided to change roles, and the older brother placed the younger one onto the donkey and began following them on foot. The Man (Viewpoint,) appeared for a third time, again masqueraded into a different Hodja, and started shouting why the young, strong and healthy brother was on the donkey, and the aging and tired brother was following on foot, against the will of god. Well, the two brothers decided to lift up the donkey and started carrying him on their hands and shoulders to the town, while the Man that used to masquerade as a Hodja had climbed and hide himself inside a high tree, and kept laughing like a monkey while watching them from a distance as they were carrying the donkey.

Did you like my joke Miltiades?
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Postby Piratis » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:37 am

The Turk starts to throw out Kurds they ask him what the hell are you doing, he responds we have plenty of these back home...


A correction to the joke of Viewpoint :lol:

Come on Viewpoint, you know one Turk wouldn't harm another, right? You all stand united and hypnotized like in your avatar, you forgot?
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:39 am

Piratis wrote:
The Turk starts to throw out Kurds they ask him what the hell are you doing, he responds we have plenty of these back home...


A correction to the joke of Viewpoint :lol:

Come on Viewpoint, you know one Turk wouldn't harm another, right? You all stand united and hypnotized like in your avatar, you forgot?


The people in my avatar are Turkish Cypriots and the people in the joke are always Turks as there are far more Turks than Kurds in Turkey. Man you cant take a joke as it is you have to annihilate that as well you GCs never change.
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Postby bg_turk » Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:42 am

Piratis wrote:
The Turk starts to throw out Kurds they ask him what the hell are you doing, he responds we have plenty of these back home...


A correction to the joke of Viewpoint :lol:

Come on Viewpoint, you know one Turk wouldn't harm another, right? You all stand united and hypnotized like in your avatar, you forgot?


I do not find your correction funny, Piratis. Can you for once abstain from making anti-Turkish propagand by politicizing and ruinning jokes in this tasteless manner.
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Postby bg_turk » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:10 am

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Postby sadik » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:11 am

Piratis wrote:
May I ask why you are informing us of your intention to attack when you feel strong enough?

I am saying the obvious. Our country is under illegal occupation, if we could throw out the invaders of course we would do it. Why this surprises you???


Is it to unite the other side so that they will attack first to make sure that this will never happen?

If they can attack they will anyways. It is clear they are trying to take as much as they can using illegal practices of ethnic cleansing and land grab.


In that case, would that be a fair game?

What would be a fair game would be if everybody accepted legality and a solution based on democracy and human rights as they exist in all other democratic countries.
Since they refuse to be fair we are given no such option unfortunately.

And you are a moderator of this forum. Why are you debating with us if this is what you believe in?

The time I was debating trying to find a solution ended when I realized that the majority (which I am not saying it includes you) of TCs want to gain on our loss by using the power of Turkey.
Today I am convinced that no solution will come out of discussions or negotiations. Unfortunate but true.

If risking the complete annihilation of a population (TCs and GCs together) for whatever goal you have is not extremism, what is extremism then?


Defending your own country from foreign invaders is extremism????
The extremists are those that invaded our country and stole our lands, not us, that want to take back nothing more than what belongs to us.


I am not surprised by your remarks. What I'm saying is that if you are going to strike, you should plan this secretly, because the natural instinct of the other side will be to strike first. Turkey, by occupying the northern part of the island, have fullfilled all her startegic needs as she sees it, so she will not strike again under normal circumstances. However, it will be a different situation if your scenario comes to life. So, this scenario actually is risking another attack and the complete annihaliation of the island for an uncertain gain. Hence, this is an extreme position to defend, under the circumstances.

Defending your country is a noble cause, but it should be done when you actually can defend your country. Plus, defence is not only by military means. Biggest defence for Cyprus is solving the Cyprus problems as soon as possible, without postponding it until an uncertain time that the circumstances will be more favorable. During the negotiations in 60s and 70s, the TC side had accepted all the 13 points that Makarios had made in 1963. That, for example, would be a good time to make an agreement and close the issue. However, Makarios thought that he would even get a better solution in time. Not closing the problem in 1972, made 1974 possible. Of course this does not make all the suffering that was inflicted on the GCs in 1974 right.

The Turkish side also accepted the Gali set of ideas and the Annan Plan, which were both rejected by the GC side eventually. I'm not blaming you for not accepting something you don't like. This is just to show that there are instances of the Turkish side accepting solution plans! It is not true that there is no hope for an agreement. Occassionally a government in Turkey with the intention of solving the Cyprus problem will come to power (like when Erdogan's AKP first came to power). In that case we should sieze the opportunity, not postpond the problem.
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Postby sadik » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:22 am



Luckily, there was a pool :)
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Postby Sotos » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:47 am



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: What a bitch!
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Postby bg_turk » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:52 am

Here is another one, for militades and mrfrong

http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/v2/play.php?id=32703
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