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Turkish Cypriots are no more than a minority

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Jerry » Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:19 pm

Kifeas you contiuously hurl abuse at VP on this site. Your posts do nothing to bring the two sides together, how can TCs ever expect to live in peace in Cyprus with people like you showing so miuch hatred. I do not agree with much of what VP says but I fail to see how calling him a snake and insulting him helps the debate.

Personally I would ban you for a week until you calm down.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:28 pm

Kifeas wrote :
""Snakes like Viewpoint are the reason not only why we will never have solution and re-unification, but most likely will also be the reason why we will have a war and bloodshed in Cyprus one day"""

As far as VP is concerned , you refer to VP as a female , since I'm not certain that your not being vindictive in some way I will refer to VP as a male until corrected.


This war and threats talk by you Kifeas, is really spoiling everything. I understand your frustration, but you have to concentrate on you fine logical argumentation, without derailing into such paths.

I understand perfectly the reason you call VP a "she". VP is a person whose brain operates on intuition and instict, which is typical of women. In the absence of logical explanation this ability of women, provided mankind a tool to survive. Because men at such situations simply raise their hands. The problem with VP (which is typical of women) is that cannot escape from his "intuition and instict" line of thinking, even when he is presented logical argumentation that proves him wrong.

One of my teachers said that no male or female is 100% male or female. For example men have breasts-why what’s the use of non functioning breasts to a male? Ela nte…!! (come’n tell me)

NB.
1) I hope I am not offending Mr VP or sound sexist in this post. I even acknowledge what my teacher said as valid for myself as well.
2)VP cannot take any reasoning why partition is totally impossible to be agreed…
3)Talks for "snakes" and all that stuff should stop. I repeat what I said in previous posts. VP is not the cause of the Cyprus problem. He is just one of the victims as everyone else Kifeas, please understand that VP cannot influence any TC to embrace his views unless that TC wants it! So take it easy man.
4)War might happen one day but does anyone have the illussion that even if we win we will be the winners? Hey are the TCs the "winners" of the war in 1974???? Is Turkey a winner???? The one who attacks is never the winner even if he "wins". (Look at Israel Vs Hezbollah)
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Postby Kifeas » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:31 pm

Jerry wrote:Kifeas you contiuously hurl abuse at VP on this site. Your posts do nothing to bring the two sides together, how can TCs ever expect to live in peace in Cyprus with people like you showing so miuch hatred. I do not agree with much of what VP says but I fail to see how calling him a snake and insulting him helps the debate.

Personally I would ban you for a week until you calm down.


Okay Jerry, I will let you alone to eat the shit that VP is feeding you everyday, without been able to confront him in anyway!
Enjoy eating VP's shit!
Suckers!
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Postby GG » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:53 pm

Kifeas wrote:Okay Jerry, I will let you alone to eat the shit that VP is feeding!
Enjoy eating VP's shit!
Suckers!


Very diplomatic.
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Postby sadik » Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:56 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Svetlana I request that this person called Kifeas is not banned, let everyone read for themselves exactly what lies behind the mind of many GCs and the venom which they display when challenged with anything out of there limited sphere for tollerating other peoples viewpoints. They turn to insults of the lowest form and expect that individual to want reunification well you will not get anyone to unite with you Kifeas as you do your people the worst dis-service possible, only sick part is you dont realize it.

As if the snake of partition ever wanted or will ever want re-unification -or any other solution apart from the perpetuation and “legalization” of the theft and the usurping of our properties and our homeland in the north, and he /she now has the audacity to also pretend to be “worried” that I am the one spoiling such prospects by the way I am posting in the forum. What a preposterous argument indeed!


You are the one claiming to want reunificaiton not me, are you so blind as to not see what you are doing does not contribute positively to changing anyone views or helping them understand but providing time and time again that example which we TCs feel is a good reason to mistrust people like you, thinking you are a reflection of the GC people in general. You sink deeper and deeper into the pit of proving why we should never reunite, yet you seem to continue with the same old belittling and degrading rhetoric.


I cannot see how we can make such a leap and come to the conclusion that we should never be united because of the personal remarks between two people. Both of you, come on. Do not exaggerate. If you two cannot get along, I don't care. If you cannot debate in a calm manner I don't care. But this does not mean that we, as communities, cannot live together. This does not mean that we cannot solve the Cyprus Problem. This does not mean that we need to go to war. There might be tens of people on this forum, but our communities are formed of hundreds of thousands of individuals. Each of us are different human beings and each of us have different opinions which change over time. Do not over extend your assumptions.

Let me add that I do not approve of Kifeas' insulting comments towards VP, for what essentially is an expression of his opinion. I give this to Kifeas' deeply emotional personality and the disasterous effects of the Cyprus Problem on him. Sometimes issues that seem to be purely political and abstract in nature can have great impact on peoples lives. We should consider this. I hope to see Kifeas' calm and insightful new posts.
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Postby GG » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:04 pm

sadik wrote: There might be tens of people on this forum, but our communities are formed of hundreds of thousands of individuals. Each of us are different human beings and each of us have different opinions which change over time.


But surely a group of people from a certain area are a sample of that area, obviously the larger the sample the more accurate the statistics on opinions are but from what I read I think the differing views are symbolic and proportional of the whole area. And as a note, the only place where anger disrespect is shown in discussions is in the middle east and we all know the state of play there.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:17 pm

One of my teachers said that no male or female is 100% male or female. For example men have breasts-why what’s the use of non functioning breasts to a male? Ela nte…!! (come’n tell me)


That's because we are all conceived as females. I believe six weeks into the pregnancy the stronger sex emerges. But ultimately we are all girls at the beginning. Hence the breasts.

This is a much better subject to discuss, Cyprob is getting tedious and monotonous. :lol: :lol:
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Postby MR-from-NG » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:25 pm

Okay Jerry, I will let you alone to eat the shit that VP is feeding you everyday, without been able to confront him in anyway!
Enjoy eating VP's shit!
Suckers!


Kifeas,

You were a lot calmer and could argue a point in a civil manner before. Whats come over you?

Come on buddy, chill out. No need for insults and obscenities. We may all one day meet up for drinks and a bit of bonding. How will you feel then about the things you've called other members?

Miltiades and I met up for a drink and a chat the other night. We may organise a night for all members in the UK to meet, we are also considering doing the same in Cyprus at a time we are both visiting there.

I suggest you calm down and show your fellow man respect and tolerance.
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Postby shoushoucos » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:43 pm

First and formost we should refer to Cypriots !

armenian or turkish or greek should be irrelevant.

We should all agree that we are CYPRIOTS FIRST.

Any other reference should be banned by law!
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Postby Strahd » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:50 pm

shoushoucos wrote:First and formost we should refer to Cypriots !

armenian or turkish or greek should be irrelevant.

We should all agree that we are CYPRIOTS FIRST.

Any other reference should be banned by law!


Maybe killed on the spot! :lol: :lol: :lol: See what I am talking about that the "new Cypriot nationals" are more fashcist than the faschists themselves!
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