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Postby dancingbear » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:23 pm

they should have tried doing something about it.


Good answer , but is'nt that exactly what the UK Goverment is doing.

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Postby miltiades » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:25 pm

Neversaygoodbye started this threat that if it wasn't a serious matter , the question posed would be laughable.Here we are in the middle of the busiest month for travel and suddenly the police in the UK decide to have a little game , go and arrest a few Muslims , ground all flights cause immense disruption to international travel as well as business and what does brains say ""Why isnt this sounding very convincing? Something isn't right with this whole
story.Maybe its just me. ""
SO TELL US THEN , WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE STORY THAT YOUR BRAIN FINDS HARD TO ABSORB .
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Postby dancingbear » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:28 pm

kikapu,
Not got a problem with the Police infact every body I have talked to also as not got a problem with the Police, The Brazillian just another casualty of the war on terror. Also dont go on about the lad who got shot in the shoulder (if not an accident) I would question the police as to why they only shot him once and not in the head.


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Postby Kikapu » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:35 pm

dancingbear wrote:kikapu,
Not got a problem with the Police infact every body I have talked to also as not got a problem with the Police, The Brazillian just another casualty of the war on terror. Also dont go on about the lad who got shot in the shoulder (if not an accident) I would question the police as to why they only shot him once and not in the head.


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So the cop was of his aim by 6 inches. Thank god for that, since one can not return back from the DEAD.
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Postby miltiades » Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:49 pm

Kikapu , there will be MORE violence in the UK and in Europe , unfortunately we can not turn the clock back.
It is too bloody late now to send them all back to Pakistan , Bangladesh or where ever else they came from. They have a brilliant opportunity to escape the misery and poverty of these wretched nations and yet , most of them , hate everything that we stand for. Millions of English , Scottish , Welsh disagree with the policies of the government but they pose no threat to the civilians of this country. The people who are prepared to inflict death and destruction to their own people in the UK are driven by the same sick ideology that the murderers in Iraq are.
The government is responsible for our safety and should be supported by all law abiding citizens in its efforts to stop a tragedy from happening.
I have to admit that I have an instant mistrust of anyone with a beard , be it a Greek priest , A Hindu or a Muslim. Man has progressed since the dark ages. What the hell does a dirty looking beard have to do with religion.
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Postby dancingbear » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:08 pm

Found this on another web site...

British Muslim himself. His name is Eteraz:

"Something is rotten among the state of British Muslims. There is the imminent terror plot to blow up planes at a massive scale. There was 7/7. There are British Muslims supporting Hizabollah (even as other Brits go to fight for Israel). There were British Muslims going off to fight in Iraq. There were British Muslims going off to Afghanistan (although British Muslims are also part of the British army). How did it happen that a bunch of university educated First World kids started seeing themselves as some sort of revolutionists?

Many Brits, for some foolish reason, pin the blame on British foreign policy. Oh, if only our foreign policy did not mimic the American foreign policy, we would stop producing home grown terrorists, because they would have no reason to hate us. Wrong. Dead wrong.

Imagine for one moment that I cast a magical spell, let’s say, using my Harry Potter wand, and the British government’s foreign policy became precisely what 99.9% of Muslims wanted it to be (assuming Muslims could agree — which, I can assure you, they can’t). But let’s say that happened. Would British-born Muslim fanaticism disappear? I assure you most certainly not. For you see, Palestine, Chechnya, Afghanistan, Iraq are just proxies for the fanatic. If all of those places were at peace he would find new reasons for legitimizing his killing. He would target Western “materialism.” He would target Western “hedonism.” He would target Western “secularism.” Just as a fanatic can look to the television and see dead Muslim children around the world to fuel his rancor, he would be able to find on the television any number of other “catalysts” to fuel his behavior. Not only that, but he would find in his Salafi tomes (Qutb written, Saudi paid), those catalysts (like the flesh of the Western woman). No, it is not the foreign policy that is the problem; it the fanatic that is the issue."

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Postby Kikapu » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:35 pm

dancingbear wrote:Found this on another web site...

British Muslim himself. His name is Eteraz:

British government’s foreign policy became precisely what 99.9% of Muslims wanted it to be (assuming Muslims could agree — which, I can assure you, they can’t).


Natty, Eteraz is using the same percentages, 99.9% as you do. What the hell's going on.??!!!
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:49 pm

miltiades wrote:Kikapu , there will be MORE violence in the UK and in Europe , unfortunately we can not turn the clock back.
It is too bloody late now to send them all back to Pakistan , Bangladesh or where ever else they came from. They have a brilliant opportunity to escape the misery and poverty of these wretched nations and yet , most of them , hate everything that we stand for. Millions of English , Scottish , Welsh disagree with the policies of the government but they pose no threat to the civilians of this country. The people who are prepared to inflict death and destruction to their own people in the UK are driven by the same sick ideology that the murderers in Iraq are.
The government is responsible for our safety and should be supported by all law abiding citizens in its efforts to stop a tragedy from happening.
I have to admit that I have an instant mistrust of anyone with a beard , be it a Greek priest , A Hindu or a Muslim. Man has progressed since the dark ages. What the hell does a dirty looking beard have to do with religion.


Miltiades,

Listen friend, you should not hate those from the countries that you have mentioned, because almost all of them do not hate the British way of life. Whether we like it or not, some will take their anger to our governments foreign policy personally and pick up arms against her, and some, like my self, will only raise my voice against her. Of course we must stop those that want's to kill us, but you don't condemn the whole damn race.

I wish you would have been able to stop Makarios of becoming a President, since he also had a beard ( a big one at that ).
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Postby anastasiaC » Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:19 pm

Miltiades - for you to have instant mistrust of anyone with a beard then I think I am right to say that this so called war on terror and all the terrorism crap the media feeds us has had an impact on you (and lots of other people)
how very sad....I will never believe what is dished out especially by the likes of CNN and bCC

Why are countries with the same way of life and values such as brits and americans - countries such as New Zealand, Canada, Ireland, Germany etc etc never under such threat??
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Postby Natty » Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:40 pm

Kikapu wrote:
dancingbear wrote:Found this on another web site...

British Muslim himself. His name is Eteraz:

British government’s foreign policy became precisely what 99.9% of Muslims wanted it to be (assuming Muslims could agree — which, I can assure you, they can’t).


Natty, Eteraz is using the same percentages, 99.9% as you do. What the hell's going on.??!!!


LOL! It's a great percenatge Kikapu, you should try using it, you can't resisit it any further!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I have to admit that when I heard about the terror plot, I didn't question it, I'd hope that on something so serious as a terror attack, the Goverment would not lie to us about it (although I could be being naive...), however I do agree that the information given could be 'over exagerated' or slightly incorrect to suite the needs of the Goverment..

I do not condone or agree with terroist acts, however I often also do not agree with American and British (as well the policy from Europe) policy over seas, especially in the middle east...There's is a lot of manipulation going on around the world..

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