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[cypezokyli]

akamas is going to the festival.

the newspaper that didnot take a position on the topic.....surprise surprise "o phileleftehros" sais today on page 34 today:

CYPRUS ON THE FESTVAL IN VENICE

this years' 63 movie festival is of great importance for cyprus since our country is represented for the first time in this big celebration of the cinema.

"...afou ta oikonomika provlimata xeperastikan"


suddenly it is of great importance.
where was the position of this "newspaper" all this time?
on everything else they ve got a position (the one of the govermenr ) , but on this one they conviniently forgot to take a stance.... now they discovered the importance for cyprus....
it is in times like this that the famous phrase of hary klynn comes to mind : den mas .... re philelefthere

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my great respect to all those people who privatly decided to help (financially and otherwise) panikos hrysanthou.
people like that make me feel proud for being a cypriot

[Piratis]

But wait! Didn't you say that this film was censored, baned etc?? What happened?

As it was always apparent there was no banning or censorship over this film as some people were trying to present it just to attack the government.

Simply there was a disagreement over an agreement that caused a funding to be cut.

Next time if the director wishes to do whatever he feels like it would be better to put the money out of his own pocket or from people that are willing to give to him money without any questions asked.

The state however should not give blank checks to anybody.

[cypezokyli]

because in your mind , there is only one kind of cencorship.

nobody said the moovie was banned. you are making thinks out of your head again.
bc as usual you refuse to see the point.

it doesnt really matter. its just a waste of time to continue argue. this is really silly.

what is important is that the moovie will reach a festival, that no moovie sponsored by the goverment or following its rulings was ever able to reach. this should give a first hint on why the goverment shouldnt be involved in arts.

[Piratis]

this should give a first hint on why the goverment shouldnt be involved in arts.

Not involved = not giving money. Or you insist that our money should be given as blank cheques to some people?

[cypezokyli]

this should give a first hint on why the goverment shouldnt be involved in arts.

Not involved = not giving money. Or you insist that our money should be given as blank cheques to some people?

piratis , leave the generalisations and take a position on this specific one.
bc i know you are going to bring rediculous arguments of the kind : should the goverment support child pornographic films? this argument is rediculous, bc we are not talking in general but about something very specific. the scene that needs to be deleted is very specific.
critisism against the film and articles in favour have been written in the press and we are talking about very specific things.
you insist on staying on a very general level because you can use general arguments (which in this case are rediculous)

whats your position on the rules that the goverment imposed on this specific case ?
do you have one ?
if you have one , please share it with us.

i believe that the scene where an eoka member killed an allegged traitor should have been cencored because.....

all the rest is poetry (together with the argument i didnot watch the moovie)

take a position piratis....if you can...

[Piratis]

piratis , leave the generalisations and take a position on this specific one.

From the beginning of this thread I said that I am talking in general. For the specifics of this movie I can not say since I have not watched the film, I have not seen the agreement that was signed (and I am not even a lawyer). What I said is that the case can be taken to court and the court will decide if the agreement was bridged or not, not you or me or the newspapers.

On the other hand you (and bananiot etc) were quick to come to a judgement, even from the first article that you saw. The reason is your anti-papadopoulos attitude which doesn't allow you to be objective. For you it was a good chance to throw some more mad at our government.

A topic about the movie had existed long before this issue appeared (http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=6815) and all you "art lovers" didn't bother to say anything there. When you thought that the issue could be used in a political way against our government you immidietly remembered the movie.

[cypezokyli]

i didnot watch the moovie

OK.....

[Piratis]

While you made your judgement without watching the movie and without seeing the agreement. You just took the side that was against our government. How long did you think before taking this decision? half second?

[cypezokyli]

i thought of stop discussing with you, but you seem to ensist.

what difference will it make if you watch the particular scene ?
are you going to judge on aesthetic criteria ?
or did that goverment official judged it on aesthetic criteria ?
common, i honestly thought you were more clever than that.

the film was sencored on strictly political criteria.
the film was sencored because just like everything else in our history EOKA is suppossed to receive no critisism wahtsoever. any film that might show a small mistake from our side should be immidiately cenored. how else are we going to control the people?

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take it to court. well done. very clever idea. in short saying , let it go to court ....in the meantime the first cyprus film to be shown in venice, will loose its only opportunity (since we all know how long a case will take) , but at least the syndesmoi agoniston will be satisfied.

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you didnt watch the moovie ah ?
let me guess. did you also see the "facts" about those paid ba the americans ? but no, you were satisfied by the excuse of the ambivalent atmosphere. and now suddenly everyone is looking for facts.... when we all know exactly what the scene is about. ethelotyfleis pirati. there is other way to descibe it

[Bananiot]

EOKA is a holy cow, no one can touch it in this plantation. And, its ambient by the way, not ambivalent but its all the same for Piratis.