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[miltiades]

Undertaker you have previously made such analogies with the Taliban , they stupid , imbecile and have no relation what so ever to Cypriot culture , politics or way of life.
Make constructive criticisms and try to avoid repetition of ridiculous notions.

[cypezokyli]

the point is very simple.
politics are intervening into art.
stupidity is putting obstacles to a film, to be shown in venice!

ofcource it is possible to use legalistic arguments.

the scene to be excluded is very simple. so instead of generalisations you people can give an opinion on the exact scene that they attempt to sencor. an eoka member kills an alleged traitor inside a church. (according to the director, that is a fact).

even if it not a fact , it is obviously not turkish propaganda.

if you are in favor, of sencoring such a scene, please explain your reasons

[Sotos]

cypezokyli did you watch the movie? Is it online anywhere?

[cypezokyli]

no.

how can i watch it ? it is still not decided if that scene will be included or not

[cypezokyli]

There is one person that obviously logs into the forum for some time now under multiple different names and makes posts that are all expressing essentially the same point of view, trying in this way to give the impression that the same views are shared by a much larger and wider spectrum of people. This practice is clearly outside the scope of this forum, and the administrator should check out the log-in and posting IP address and -if they are all from the same IP- to remove the many alternative accounts that essentially belong to the same poster.

i agree.

undertaker or socrates or whatever, as much as at times i may agree with you, you ll just have to stick on the rules. you can express your point of view without refferring to ttoppouzous , taliabans etc

[Bananiot]

The scene in question shows an EOKA fighter executing a Greek Cypriot traitor in a church. I cannot understand how this is considered offensive for the heroic EOKA. It is a fact that such assasinations took place. In fact, more Greek Cypriots were killed by EOKA than British soldiers. Defkalion openly boasted about these executions in the magazine "Egertrion Salpisma" and of course, he endorsed all executions, especially in the Famagusta area around 1957. Thus, I cannot see how historical truth hurts to the extend that our people of culture would need to be subjected to censorship. Is this the behaviour of a European country?

[reportfromcyprus]

100% agreement, Bananiot, we can't have it both ways. Either artists are free to express themselves, or they aren't. Whether we 'agree' on an interpretation of a historical event has nothing to do with the way the director of a film chooses to treat the material. As taxpayers we should fully support any artist expressing themselves if the work is quality and of good artistic standards.

The Man with the Golden Arm - Frank Sinatra as a heroin addict - not an easy choice of material, but an important one. The list goes on - the film Full Metal Jacket, Jane Fonda speaking out against the Vietnam War - maybe people weren't happy that these actors and directors expressed themselves, but they could hardly say that they weren't allowed to exercise their right to do so.

[Sotos]

But did they sensor the film or they just didn't want to fund it because they didn't agree with something?

[cypezokyli]

read the articles soto

its an indirect sencorship , using legalistic excuses for a political decision

[Maria28]

Will the film be shown at the Venice Biennale?