Cyprus-Forum.com

[rolo]

The Big Sell Out


If The Orams lose their case, and are forced to sell their British home to pay theGC land owner, how many more cases will follow?
Will the British in Cyprus then be recognised as legal owners of these lands once cash for land and rent has changed hands?

Can the turks then apply to compensate their previous gc land owners too?


Have we found a workable sollution?

[Viewpoint]

If the Orams lose their case there will be a massive backlash which will also effect many TCs living in the Uk who have also purchased disputed property and have property in the UK. Will the UK do this to their own citizens or will they as usual just prolong/delay making any decision at all. The second scenerio appears more likely.

The only way imo to solve the land issue is for a fair payment of compensation to be made by the TRNC/current owner but in order to do this the GCs have to allow the sale of TC property in the south which has been exchanged for GC land in the north so the GC can be paid allowing him to purchase elsewhere.

[RichardB]

If the Orams lose their case there will be a massive backlash which will also effect many TCs living in the Uk who have also purchased disputed property and have property in the UK. Will the UK do this to their own citizens or will they as usual just prolong/delay making any decision at all. The second scenerio appears more likely.

The only way imo to solve the land issue is for a fair payment of compensation to be made by the TRNC/current owner but in order to do this the GCs have to allow the sale of TC property in the south which has been exchanged for GC land in the north so the GC can be paid allowing him to purchase elsewhere.

Far too sensible viewpoint thats why it wont happen like this

[Piratis]

1) The Orams should pay Apostolides compensation for the time they used his property until now and NOT for buying it. Thats the ruling of the court. Nobody has the right to force anybody to sell his own property

2) Practices that have as an aim to permanently remove Greek Cypriots from the lands they inhabited for 3500 years are not sensible and will not be accepted.

[RichardB]

What you say is right Pirates
But dont you think that some kind of compromise may have to be reached?
Do you think that many Cypriots would accept a fair compensation settlement to enable them to start over?
And I do mean fair as in they would get full market value of land and properties at todays prices. I'm not saying they have to accept but if given the opportunity should they be allowed to accept this settlement?

[andri_cy]

I think that it should be up to the rightful owner. They do not need anyone's permission and therefore it is not about them being allowed.

[Sotos]

RichardB, do you think the UK would accept France to buy part of Britain by compensating the residents of that part? Here you are asking us to sell off our own country for money!!

[RichardB]

RichardB, do you think the UK would accept France to buy part of Britain by compensating the residents of that part? Here you are asking us to sell off our own country for money!!

The French can buy part of Britain if they want . That is the joy of being in the EU. Cypriots can buy part of Britain if they want So can any one else for that matter including persons from outside of the EU.
I am not asking you to sell off your country.
I was asking if you thought that if some people wanted to sell thier property at the full market value do you think that they should be able to do so if they wished?

[Pyrpolizer]

No because under current circumstances they are selling their country as Sotos very well said.
The definition of country is not just land. What you said about France buying part of UK "Land" this does not mean buying part of the Country, is does not mean set a new state there, it does not mean take a proportion of the forests and natural resources, it does not transfer Authority and Governance rights to the French, it does not oblidge other British people who live in that area to be subjects of another Country.

This is exactly the same reason in any solution we will not sell our properties either. We are afraid the other side will use them to legally establish a new state and take away our Country via partition.

This is also the reason I offered those clever guys asking for such a deal to sell us THEIR properties for double the price instead.

See, when someone likes to play it "clever" always have in mind someone else can play "more clever".

[RichardB]

No because under current circumstances they are selling their country as Sotos very well said.
The definition of country is not just land. What you said about France buying part of UK "Land" this does not mean buying part of the Country, is does not mean set a new state there, it does not mean take a proportion of the forests and natural resources, it does not transfer Authority and Governance rights to the French, it does not oblidge other British people who live in that area to be subjects of another Country.

This is exactly the same reason in any solution we will not sell our properties either. We are afraid the other side will use them to legally establish a new state and take away our Country via partition.

This is also the reason I offered those clever guys asking for such a deal to sell us THEIR properties for double the price instead.

See, when someone likes to play it "clever" always have in mind someone else can play "more clever".

Pyrpolizer Thank you for a sensible straight answer to my question I can understand now your reason for not wanting a compensation package for properties in the occupied areas.
A straight answer was what I had hoped to recieve to my question from sotos but instead all I got was a question in return.
Once again many thanks