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Postby Marz » Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:03 pm

Piratis what you said was exactly what ive been trying to say.
If these turks want recognition then go to Turkey and get it.
Your not a Turkish republic of Northern Cyprus, you occupy Cypriot land by force. YOU ARE TURKS isnt that why you have turkish flags everywhere you occupy northern Cyprus.
Turkish tactics and caniving nature is similar to that of the Jews.
You only stick to your own kind, and you cant convince me otherwise buecause ive seen it many times, how turks treat Cypriots and greeks.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:49 pm

Natty wrote: The above editorial appeared in the GC daily Apogevmatini (afternoon) and it was published on the 5th of July 1974, before the Coup and the Invasion!


Natty that’s a shocking piece of evidence!!
Are you sure however it’s genuine? I believe Apogevmatini started circulating in1976….

NB.
1) Everybody knows the stupid Greek Junta Generals were planning partition and annexation of the remaining part of Cyprus to Greece.
2) Why only the Greeks have stupid Generals?
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Postby Niyaz2137 » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:38 pm

miltiades wrote:Piratis , you can compare your self to the Palestinians if this is what you believe. But Cyprus is nothing of the sort .We are different in the fact that we are not governed by people with long beards


LOL. Makarios was a bishop. Bishops have beards. Makarios was the President of Cyprus. Therfore, you ARE governed by people with long beards.


miltiades wrote:, we do not kill our women relatives for the crime of being raped for having extra marital sex , neither do we make our women sit on the back of a bus , or walk 10 steps behind us. This is their culture and it is not ours.


You have the MOST stereotypical and DISTORTED view of Arabs I have ever seen. Not EVERY Arab country is like Iran or Saud Arabia.


miltiades wrote: that the Palestinians share a common heritage / culture with the Cypriots then I m sorry to disagree .


Cypriot culture is 100 times closer to Arab culture than say... American or British or German... they share the same music... food... warm hospitality and in some cases (like the Orthodox in Lebanon, Palestine, and Syria) the same religion.
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Postby Niyaz2137 » Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:48 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Why did you guys run away and not stay in your homes? Just like we are advised by GCs that we wanted to go into ghettos in 1963 and that it was not out of fear but purely an urge to live in bad conditions and cause havoc, I can also comment that you should have stood your ground and staked claim to your homes and land. Why did you try to fight the Turkish army? they declared we are here to save you from the coup if you fire at us we will fire back with greater force. The GCs fired the first bullets and bombs from the mountains at the Turkish forces landing in Kyrenia where thousands of soldiers died, why didnt they greet them with flowers? and thank them for using their rights under the guarantee to intervene in situations such as the ones unfolding in 1974?


Umm.... usually when someone INVADES YOUR COUNTRY YOU FIGHT BACK.

"Why did you run away and not stay in your homes"????????????????

Because they didn't want to die. When an invading army comes... your first reation is usually to run.

You really bought into that whole "peace initiative" crap didn't you.

Turkey is no freeing saviour and NEVER has been throughout history

It's cute though, i guess that you actually BELIEVE that junk.

Your an idiot, but it's cute, i guess.
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Postby andri_cy » Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:12 am

Rhere is no need for name calling. You can get your point across without it.
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Postby sajica58 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 12:46 am

I have found it very amusing, reading all the posts
GC's slagging off theTC's and visa versa, all the arguments seem to be drawn on ethnic grounds.
There is no cypriot race only greeks and turks who live in cyprus
just like there are british turks and british greeks.

Look at eurovision Greece gets 12 points every year from cyprus
just like Turkey gets high points from Germany, noy because they like the song but because they are voting for their own.

I would lilke a GC to explain this to me;
In the Australian open (Tennis) a GC made it to the final and in the crowd were loads and loads of flags waving.
Why were they all Greek national flags?
One of them had a slogan written on it in english.It read
Constantinople is greek, Macedonia is Greek!!

"we want a united Cyprus". For all cypriots? yeah right!
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Postby Piratis » Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:21 am

sajica58, let me explain you the difference between the democratic free world, and the Nazi practices that you support:

In the free world you are allowed to fly whatever flag you want, say whatever you want, and write whatever slogans you feel like, as long as what you do is within the limits of law (which includes laws about human, democratic and other legal rights)

On the other hand, the Nazi practices that you support include invasion of sovereign countries, ethnic cleanings, violation of human rights, violation of international law etc.

Can you understand the difference between what you have the right to do (fly a flag) and the things you have no right to do (illegal occupation, ethnic cleansing etc)?

When will you stop giving lame excuses for the inexcusable crimes that you support?
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Postby sajica58 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:45 am

Pirates,
what are you going on about?
Can't you answer a simple question without going off on a tangent?
did i question any bodies rights to wave flags?
i said that the supporters of a greek cypriot tennis player were waving greek national flags in response to the many posts on here
angry about turkish flag wavers and accusing them of not being cypriots because of it. So which is it? do we have a right to wave any flag you want or not?
did i mention anything about supporting invasions?
you think I'm a nazi? I know who i am, and what you think of me
doesn't matter. name calling won't get you anywhere.

I made a reasonable observation and was waiting for a similar response but what i got was the same old rhetoric like a broken record. You talk of being cypriot, when what you really mean is Greek. you talk about rights but all you mention is GC rights. If i'm a nazi then you're a Fascist, we should get on fine

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Postby sajica58 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:51 am

Piretis wrote
When will you stop giving lame excuses for the inexcusable crimes that you support?

by the way, what excuse did i make and what crimes do i support?
i dont recall telling you what i support
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Postby Piratis » Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:13 am

sajica58,

explain this that you said then:

"we want a united Cyprus". For all cypriots? yeah right!


In what context did you say it?

Whats stopping Cyprus from being one are the Turkish tanks, not some people in Australia flying flags in a tennis game.
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