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TRNC recognition?

Postby elias » Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:23 pm

For years now cyprus has been occupied illegaly by the turkish army. They have declared an independent republic (TRNC) which at the moment is only recognised by turkey. But for how long?

In the last weeks we have seen the US recognising FYROM as the Republic of Macedonia. It has taken about 12 years for this to happen but never the less it has happened. Whats stopping the US recognising TRNC and before we know it the whole world following! I think that the Hellenic Governement of Cyprus should learn from the mistakes of Greece and that time is not on our side but against us.
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Postby brother » Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:30 pm

paranoa is not a good thing, and at the moment that is all it is.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:05 pm

To all newcomers.
I would sugest before poping in, to spend some time watching what other people in here discuss, read some past threads, get informed, and THEN paricipate.
And after you really know what is going on, by joining other discussions, then consider starting a new thread on a subject that worries you or think would be interesting.
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:15 pm

I think Elias is making a valid point. Time has always been running against us and if no solution is found real soon then there is nothing to stop partition. Of course, some are not concerned about this and seem to think that partition is the "second best solution". If Piratis was not wearing blind folders he could have declared such people traitors. He may yet do it, in due course.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Wed Dec 01, 2004 9:30 pm

Bananiot,
If it would be upto us to solve the Cyprus problem we would have solved it within a year after the Invasion.You know damn well that the Turkish side was always trying to buy more and more time. You you sugested many times is to accept the Anan Plan. That according to the opinion of 76% of the people would just save us time for doomsday!
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:41 pm

I was referring to the missed opportunities before the A plan and even before the tragic events of 1974 and even before the EOKA struggle. Even today there might be a glimmer of hope if we could convince the UN to convene a new round of negotiations to make the A plan better, because many things have changed since April. With our present leadership I do not think, however, that anyone will listen to us or take us seriously. We have always been putting the blame on Turkey for the impass, this will not work now, the big players lough when we do this. We let history by pass us. Papadopoulos failed miserably to capitalise on Annan's plan No 3 and came back from the negotiations with nothing at all, not because he was a terrible negotiator but because he consciously refused to negotiate in order to bring back a plan that he could easily call for its rejection. All these because he thought that he could achieve a better, so called european, solution. Well, the big players are not eating ... gonnara!
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Postby brother » Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:07 pm

There is always hope that the leaders that are will wake up in the end and maybe do their human duties and try to really resolve the issue.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:48 pm

Oh, how fullish of me, I thought time was running against us after the invasion!
Before May 1, we were not EU members so ask a mathematician in your school to explain you how to extrapolate your curves. The biggest mistake of Papadopolulos was to accept the arbitration of Cofi Anan/De Soto. I told you that 100 times. And finally nobody is laughing in the EU.You are the one who is always whimpering.Raise your head up high man!
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Postby Alasya » Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:09 pm

I don`t see a link between recognizing the republic of Macedonia, which is the name rightly chosen by the people of that country, living in what historically used to be Macedonia to recognizing the TRNC.

I hope you are right and they do recognize the TRNC, this would be good news for the Turkish Cypriots. But I don`t think they will.

For the record, if another country decides to call themselves the TRNC, I don`t have a problem with that.
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Postby metecyp » Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:04 am

Alasya wrote:I hope you are right and they do recognize the TRNC, this would be good news for the Turkish Cypriots. But I don`t think they will.

Why do you think that recognition of the TRNC (which is very unlikely) would be a good thing for TCs? Many TCs are not happy about the structure in the north. You know what's the biggest problem of TCs? Not being able to govern themselves. If you solve that problem, then that would really be a good thing for TCs.
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