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[Piratis]

So you expect a TC living in Kyrenia, Nicosia etc for the last 30-40 years to pack his bags and move back to the house he lived in Paphos, limasol etc?

Cypriot citizens should be allowed to live wherever in Cyprus they wish. If the TC you talk about wants to live in Kerinia he has every right to do so, as long as he legally owns/rents the property he occupies.

[miltiades]

I have never voted in any Cypriot election by the virtue of the fact that living in the UK , The polling stations are a little too far away. I made a promise though that when the first Pan-Cypriot party is formed and consisting of all Cypriots , might even include some new comers to our shores , I shall travel on foot if necessary to get to that Polling station and cast my vote for the party representing all Cypriots. If I was 10-15 years younger I would consider a change in employment and seek new pastures , but at 60 it is a trifle too late. Imagine a political party , lets say a party like the Labour in the UK , with Piratis as the minister of foreign affairs , Kikapu as the Chancellor , not forgetting Kifeas as the President , mrfromng as education minister , Zypezokyli most definitely will be the Minister without portfolio , and so as not to sound sexist andrycy the United nations rep , as for lysi I thought the f arts minister , uniqueearhing could be appointed as the Animal welfare minister . Almost forgot Viewpoint , he of course will also be The President , so we have two , not rotating but simultaneously .
Bananiot I thought would make an excellent Home affairs Minister , and finally lets have Theresa as the minister for transport so she can drive us all mad with her anti West outbursts. I of course would apply to become the immigration and Cultures Minister answerable only to divine powers.

[Bananiot]

I demand a reshuffle ...

[Kikapu]

I demand a reshuffle ...

Lets have a reshuffle once a year, just like Italy use to from 1945 until 1980's.!!!

[MR-from-NG]

Excellent post Miltiades.
I would make history by being the first uneducated minister of education.

If growing up on the streets of the West-End counts as some kind of qualification/graduation then count me in.

[miltiades]

Laughing at your self is vey healthy , so they say !!

[Viewpoint]

Piratis

Again, the control will be proportional to population and all citizens will be equal. Each GC will have the same control as each TC. The control of Cyprus will be to Cypriots. Just like the control of USA belongs to USA citizens, and not to blacks, whites and Hispanics separately.

You are talking about individual rights, not community rights. You have 60% more chance of being elected than me due the fact that you are GC, surely this is unfiar balance in your favor that will insure we TCs dont get a look into the running of our country.

The "car" as you said will define the rules, which are democracy, human rights and the EU laws. Cyprus will have to follow a specific path, it can not turn to something different (e.g communism).

The car can be a Ford = human rights and democracy this we agree on.

Within this limits you will have to accept that the way Cyprus is "driven" will depend on the population as a whole. You can not demand that the 18% (actually the 9.1%) should be able to stop the Cyprus "car" from moving just because it feels like, if the car is moving within the limits of human rights, democracy and EU laws. If the car tries to move out of these limits, then yes, you will have the veto power to stop it.

Arent you contradicting yourself by saying that we can stop the car then you say we cannot, who will determine when we can stop the car and how will we do it if the driver is a GC? beg?

Serbia and Montenegro are two separate countries. So your model for Cyprus is the one of two separate countries or the one that can be very easily be broken into 2 separate countries?
If you owned northern Cyprus (the way that Montenegrians own Montenegro, or the way that the population of each Swiss canton owns their canton) then I would have no problem. But understand that you can not be given the ownership of any part of our land. You have the 18% share of Cyprus as a whole, but no specific part belongs exclusively to you.

You asked for examples and provided them of course these should be adapted to our specific situation which in not only very original but needs to be a fine balance that will allow both sides to commit to making it work.

People are equal. Each TC can have the same effect as each GC.

As individual rights are concerned I agree but what do we do about our community rights of one community dominating and controlling the other.

The correct proportional balance of 18%-82% yes.

Quoting figures means nothing when u do not put in place a mechanism that will take into account each communities wishes without forcing the will of one community on the other.

TCs will be fully represented and each TC representative will have the same effectiveness as each GC representative.

So what you are really saying is that 8GCs can vote against 2TCs and make decisions on behalf of the TC community against their will?

[Natty]

I have never voted in any Cypriot election by the virtue of the fact that living in the UK , The polling stations are a little too far away. I made a promise though that when the first Pan-Cypriot party is formed and consisting of all Cypriots , might even include some new comers to our shores , I shall travel on foot if necessary to get to that Polling station and cast my vote for the party representing all Cypriots. If I was 10-15 years younger I would consider a change in employment and seek new pastures , but at 60 it is a trifle too late. Imagine a political party , lets say a party like the Labour in the UK , with Piratis as the minister of foreign affairs , Kikapu as the Chancellor , not forgetting Kifeas as the President , mrfromng as education minister , Zypezokyli most definitely will be the Minister without portfolio , and so as not to sound sexist andrycy the United nations rep , as for lysi I thought the f arts minister , uniqueearhing could be appointed as the Animal welfare minister . Almost forgot Viewpoint , he of course will also be The President , so we have two , not rotating but simultaneously .
Bananiot I thought would make an excellent Home affairs Minister , and finally lets have Theresa as the minister for transport so she can drive us all mad with her anti West outbursts. I of course would apply to become the immigration and Cultures Minister answerable only to divine powers.

Doesn't Natty get a job?

[miltiades]

Natty I'm dreadfully sorry I did not include you in a future Cypriot Cabinet , I think you are far too nice to be put in a situation where corrupting practices might show their ugly heads , didn't want you corrupted , Seriously though I think you would make a fine Minister of Tourism !

[Natty]

Thanks Miltiades, that's very sweet of you!

Tell you what, I'll take the Minister for Tourism job, and, as a bonus, I'll be the official 'Peace Keeper'! (free of charge, of course!;):))

What do you think?