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[Kifeas]

The TC side (and Turkey) are insisting that this should be based on the “fact” or the “reality” that there are already two existing nation /state entities in Cyprus, the GC one in the south and the TC one in the north, that should retain their existing mono-cultural and mono-ethnic structures but come together and form -as constituencies- a connecting bond in the middle (central government,) in a form of a confederation (or loose federation,) so that they can share together mainly the international representation of Cyprus, while each one of them will be free to more or less do as it wishes in its internal matters. This is the philosophy and approach of the Turkish side, and which we do not even want to hear about and there is no way we can ever accommodate it because it is no different than partition –in fact even worst than partition.

Kifeas,

Thank you for your detailed and articulate response. Though the above is the model you oppose it is the one that the Tc's look warmly to. The latter part of your post is more or less what was in place in 1960, that was tried and for obvious reasons failed miserably. You go on to say the The GC side views Bi-communal and Bi-zonal federation as a mere evolution of the 1960 bi-communal unitary RoC. The bi-communal unitary RoC will evolve into a bi-communal and a bi-zonal federal RoC. Am I right in thinking this could in time evolve into the model we are looking for to begin with? If so why not begin the process of reunification on the model that appeals to us more?

I am not sure I understand what you are trying to say with the above.

What exactly has been "tried and for obvious reasons it miserably failed" in 1960?

I am also not sure what you are trying to say with the last two sentences of the above.
Do you understand why we cannot possibly ever accept the Turkish Cypriot approach?

[miltiades]

Why are you saying this mrfromng ? nothing sinister I hope. You are only 53 !!

"""I have one wish before I die and that is to see an end to the Cyprus problem. Time is running out for me. ""






I have one wish before I die and that is to see an end to the Cyprus problem. Time is running out for me.

[MR-from-NG]

Miltiades, once you hit 50 who knows. I have many of my friends that have died of natural causes that were my age.

I've had a back problem for years and recently kidney problems. Though I feel fine you never know.

Thanks for the beer. I suggest you buy the beer and I buy the meal. The venue is a place called Vrisaki. They are in Palmers Green and the best for Greek food they are also my friends. I'll be there on the 8th to celebrate my daughters birthday.

How about we meet soon lets say in a couple of weeks for some nice food, drink and chat? My invite and you can bring your friend/s.

[MR-from-NG]

Kifeas,

My point was this. Your option is the same or very similar to the constitution of 1960. We tried that and for reasons we all know failed miserably. If I understand you correctly you are saying lets start like this but in time it can evolve to the model you are looking for. If that is the case why not start with what we desire to begin with.

If there has been a misunderstading I have to blame the bottle of Bacardi in front of me.

[miltiades]

I would love too mrfromng . As you may know from my previous posts my wife is seriously ill and mostly bed ridden , has been fighting cancer for just over 4 years now. Other complications are also present that she needs constant care . I occasionally , when my son can take over , I sneak out for a few hours and relax a little. In South London I go to Bar 61 , a T/C owned Bar Restaurant , or the Cappadocia Turkish own Ocakbasi , they do the best kebabs south of the river. you can email me your tel.no on : [email protected] and we can sort out where to meet. I honestly would have loved to come to Vrisaki , I know the place, but it would mean being away for too long under the present situation.

[Natty]

You managed this one just fine Natty.

I know, I was quite proud of myself I must say!!! It usually takes me about five 're-edits' before I get it right!! Me and computers just don't mix sometimes!!

[MR-from-NG]

Yes Miltiades, i know of your lady wife's illness. I wish her the best in her treatment and recovery. God give you, your wife and you family strength for the future.

Email with my details on the way now my friend.

[Natty]

Hey Miltiades, I am very sorry to hear about your wives illness! I also wish her all the best in her treatment and recovery, she seems like a very strong and special lady!

[MR-from-NG]

I know, I was quite proud of myself I must say!!! It usually takes me about five 're-edits' before I get it right!! Me and computers just don't mix sometimes!!

Same here. For instance I copied your post which had smiling faces, those little yellow things. Why don't they appear when I do it. Other do the same and the little yellow things appear.

Bloody computers.

[Natty]

I know, I was quite proud of myself I must say!!! It usually takes me about five 're-edits' before I get it right!! Me and computers just don't mix sometimes!!

Same here. For instance I copied your post which had smiling faces, those little yellow things. Why don't they appear when I do it. Other do the same and the little yellow things appear.

Bloody computers.

Tell me about it!! It's quite depressing actually, because it seems like most members of this forum are some kind of 'computer experts'..(well compared to me they are.. ) ..and then there's me ....it's tragic sometimes.....