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[Kifeas]

I would like to ask to all the GCs to stop responding to “viewpoint” and any other cynical and audacious person that posts in the forum, so that eventually they either change their attitude or stop posting and move away.

Oh no, we wouldn't want people to continue contradicting the law according to Kifeas would we!!!! God forbid anyone that holds an opposing view!! How dare anyone question your fixed and pedantic beliefs!!

In a post that you made the other day, I felt some sympathy for you, but realize now that you were simply having a very rare ''pink and fluffy'' moment, but this didn't reflect the REAL you. Oh no, nothing has changed there, you are still, and always will be, a first rate self-opinionated Tw@t.

There, how does it feel to be the reciever of insults, as opposed to dishing them out all the time?

Solve it! The Cyprus problem is all about Turkey wanting to conquer (or re-conquer as they have it in their secret plans since the mid 40's) all or part of Cyprus, simply because they view it as an “extension” of Turkey, or a “lost” territory from the years of the ottoman empire. It is all about land crabbing and consolidation and legalization of it by all means. 1974 is simply the epitomizing of this mission and objective. All the rest you will hear from anyone is all plain rubbish. The TC community was and is simply used as the coach for these broader megalomaniac and irredentist objective. The Turkish version of the "magaly idea!" The TCs were used and exploited by Turkey for this purpose. Denktash once said that “if the TCs have never existed in Cyprus, Turkey should have done its outmost to invent them.” You will hear all kinds of stories, accusations, excuses, justifications and claims -some of the real and fair but most complete lies and machinations; nevertheless, they all boil down to the above fact. And this is also why the Cyprus problem remains unsolved up to this day. Turkey, once stepped foot here, it doesn't want to lose what it so hardly succeeded, no matter how illegitimate it is. All the rest is rubbish!

Before you come here and try to defend the TC cause, at least learn first what kind of country Turkey is, and what kind of state manufactured ideology the people are conditioned with!

[MR-from-NG]

Bananiot, I'm in total agreement with you. Kifeas and the Prick make me wright things that I end up regretting. I, like every decent Cypriot want a final, just and meaningful settlement to the problem. I have nothing to gain by Kifeas losing his property in the north. I don't need his property to better myself. But their arguments and denials plus their tactics in diverting the truth gets the better of me and I react the way I do.

If my choice of words offend other members I sincerely apologize.

[Kifeas]

Temper temper Kifeas,. Forget the 3500 years, history is history, its not the way forward. I have every right to dictate who lives next to me or not. I have that luxury, you on the other hand don't. So show your neighbour some respect and stop your superiority complexes getting the better of you. This is the exact reason why you are in the shit you are in. we are equal, you are not a better person than me, Turks are not lesser people than the Greeks. get it?

It is not me that claims you are not equal and that you have no rights in your country. It is you the crewed up poor fellow that makes all such claims, simply because you feel you "won" the war in 1974 and becasue you feel you have the Turkish tanks behind you, you should have the right to determine the terms. You are the one that tries to dictate his terms on me, and not the other way around. However, you should know that “what easy comes easy goes,” and as the wheel turns around, you will soon find yourself on the down turn.

[Viewpoint]

Wow what has happened since my last post, who the hell does Kifeas think he is? everyone has the right to post what they wish within the forum regulations. But his postings to ignore me takes the biscuit and disappointly only a few posters actually spoke up just like back in the 1960s(thanks to those guys who did they know who they are very kind of u) to say all posters are welcome whatever their views. I dont have to conform to what Kifeas says or thinks, do I? dont we all share differing views thats why we are hear to try and understand them? I didnt cause the current situation and it didnt just drop from the skys and nor did the TCs and Turks wake up one morning and decide to take 36% of the island. A chain of events occured where both sides made big mistakes resulting in what we have to day. The fact that we cannot agree to unite and let me remind u the last attempt was rejected by the GCs will mean that the current situation will continue until or if we can ever find a solution both sides can commit to.
The comment that has inflamed Kifeas to hurl a barrage of insults at me such as vagabond, lawless, outlaw etc and try and have me ignored was the fact that I said we TCs count. Well this comment was in direct response to a posting which stated that other nation always refer to as the island as Cyprus. I responded by saying that those other countries views are not important and it s the TCs that count, the people you share this island with and how we and Turkey view this island. You have to understand that TCs like me and we are the majority do not view the "Roc" as ours, we have never felt part of it or feel welcome there, its a foreign land to us. All we know is the TRNC, where we feel safe and not exposed to GC dominance discrimination and agression which is fuelled by the likes of people like Kifeas, Piratis, Pyrpolizer and a few others. I to can ask everyone to ignore Kifeas who works out in the gym and takes shooting lessons preparing himself for war and belittling everyone who dares to air opinions opposing his own but I wont I will rise above this type of rubbish and just say you are to respond or not to my posts as that is your right but not doing so will only give support to people who would prefer to shut up people like me who have differing viewpoints that make some individuals very uncomfortable.

[Kifeas]

Bananiot, I'm in total agreement with you. Kifeas and the Prick make me wright things that I end up regretting. I, like every decent Cypriot want a final, just and meaningful settlement to the problem. I have nothing to gain by Kifeas losing his property in the north. I don't need his property to better myself. But their arguments and denials plus their tactics in diverting the truth gets the better of me and I react the way I do.

If my choice of words offend other members I sincerely apologize.

You are the one that first came today in the forum and started provoking others with your jingoistic and fascist claims!

[MR-from-NG]

Solve it! The Cyprus problem is all about Turkey wanting to conquer (or re-conquer as they have it in their secret plans since the mid 40's) all or part of Cyprus, simply because they view it as an “extension” of Turkey, or a “lost” territory from the years of the ottoman empire. It is all about land crabbing and consolidation and legalization of it by all means. 1974 is simply the epitomizing of this mission and objective. All the rest you will hear from anyone is all plain rubbish. The TC community was and is simply used as the coach for these broader megalomaniac and irredentist objective. The Turkish version of the "magaly idea!" The TCs were used and exploited by Turkey for this purpose. Denktash once said that “if the TCs have never existed in Cyprus, Turkey should have done its outmost to invent them.” You will hear all kinds of stories, accusations, excuses, justifications and claims -some of the real and fair but most complete lies and machinations; nevertheless, they all boil down to the above fact. And this is also why the Cyprus problem remains unsolved up to this day. Turkey, once stepped foot here, it doesn't want to lose what it so hardly succeeded, no matter how illegitimate it is. All the rest is rubbish!

Before you come here and try to defend the TC cause, at least learn first what kind of country Turkey is, and what kind of state manufactured ideology the people are conditioned with!

Kifeas, you can post crap like this till the cows come home.

Now listen and listen good. Nobody believes you anymore, they now know the truth. The poor UN solders that were helpless and witnesse4d all the murders in the villages and all the injustises suffered by the TC's have spoken and the rest of the world has listened. They all know you are living in denial.

Give up and start the long road to reconciliation. I, the rest of the TC's with the rest of the world will then listen to you and even support you.

[MR-from-NG]

You are the one that first came today in the forum and started provoking others with your jingoistic and fascist claims!

Rubbish. All I said was you were being unfair on Viewpoint.

[MR-from-NG]

Wow what has happened since my last post, who the hell does Kifeas think he is? everyone has the right to post what they wish within the forum regulations. But his postings to ignore me takes the biscuit and disappointly only a few posters actually spoke up just like back in the 1960s(thanks to those guys who did they know who they are very kind of u) to say all posters are welcome whatever their views. I dont have to conform to what Kifeas says or thinks, do I? dont we all share differing views thats why we are hear to try and understand them? I didnt cause the current situation and it didnt just drop from the skys and nor did the TCs and Turks wake up one morning and decide to take 36% of the island. A chain of events occured where both sides made big mistakes resulting in what we have to day. The fact that we cannot agree to unite and let me remind u the last attempt was rejected by the GCs will mean that the current situation will continue until or if we can ever find a solution both sides can commit to.
The comment that has inflamed Kifeas to hurl a barrage of insults at me such as vagabond, lawless, outlaw etc and try and have me ignored was the fact that I said we TCs count. Well this comment was in direct response to a posting which stated that other nation always refer to as the island as Cyprus. I responded by saying that those other countries views are not important and it s the TCs that count, the people you share this island with and how we and Turkey view this island. You have to understand that TCs like me and we are the majority do not view the "Roc" as ours, we have never felt part of it or feel welcome there, its a foreign land to us. All we know is the TRNC, where we feel safe and not exposed to GC dominance discrimination and agression which is fuelled by the likes of people like Kifeas, Piratis, Pyrpolizer and a few others. I to can ask everyone to ignore Kifeas who works out in the gym and takes shooting lessons preparing himself for war and belittling everyone who dares to air opinions opposing his own but I wont I will rise above this type of rubbish and just say you are to respond or not to my posts as that is your right but not doing so will only give support to people who would prefer to shut up people like me who have differing viewpoints that make some individuals very uncomfortable.

Well said Viewpoint. I am with you all the way.

[Kifeas]

Solve it! The Cyprus problem is all about Turkey wanting to conquer (or re-conquer as they have it in their secret plans since the mid 40's) all or part of Cyprus, simply because they view it as an “extension” of Turkey, or a “lost” territory from the years of the ottoman empire. It is all about land crabbing and consolidation and legalization of it by all means. 1974 is simply the epitomizing of this mission and objective. All the rest you will hear from anyone is all plain rubbish. The TC community was and is simply used as the coach for these broader megalomaniac and irredentist objective. The Turkish version of the "magaly idea!" The TCs were used and exploited by Turkey for this purpose. Denktash once said that “if the TCs have never existed in Cyprus, Turkey should have done its outmost to invent them.” You will hear all kinds of stories, accusations, excuses, justifications and claims -some of the real and fair but most complete lies and machinations; nevertheless, they all boil down to the above fact. And this is also why the Cyprus problem remains unsolved up to this day. Turkey, once stepped foot here, it doesn't want to lose what it so hardly succeeded, no matter how illegitimate it is. All the rest is rubbish!

Before you come here and try to defend the TC cause, at least learn first what kind of country Turkey is, and what kind of state manufactured ideology the people are conditioned with!

Kifeas, you can post crap like this till the cows come home.

Now listen and listen good. Nobody believes you anymore, they now know the truth. The poor UN solders that were helpless and witnesse4d all the murders in the villages and all the injustises suffered by the TC's have spoken and the rest of the world has listened. They all know you are living in denial.

Give up and start the long road to reconciliation. I, the rest of the TC's with the rest of the world will then listen to you and even support you.

Here it is: www.un.org

There are more than 500 UN documents on Cyprus, since the beginning of 1964. All the Cyprus SC resolutions, all the UN Secretary General reports and all the UNFICYP reports from Cyprus back to their headquarters. Find me one single such document or even a paragraph out of all these 500+ documents that supports your theories that we have attempted to ethnically cleanse you. Find me one single international organization or court ruling that you have taken your case at, and you have proved your allegations. None! Absolutely none!

[Viewpoint]

mrfromng hes is a lost cause, everyone knows what hes like and that he will disregard and belittle anyone who dares to challenge his ideals and beliefs. He is indeed in denial and still feels the island is not divided and that the "RoC" rules supreme. If you had to wake up everyday of the rest of your life and accept the fact having lost millions of Cyprus Pounds you to would be as bitter and twisted as this individual. The real sad part of this scenerio is that this person does more damage than good to his own cause and rebuilding bridges that would allow him just maybe one day to reclaim what he lost. How can such a person have a balanced viewpoint?