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[Viewpoint]

Forgot something Viewpoint , what the hell are you doing with this grotesque avatar , do yourself a favour and remove it you are not at school now.

Its a reminder miltiades of our dark past and how we will find it difficult to forget and forgive or trust each other ever again. The past 46 years and the future is and will be the best indication of why what I am saying is spot on.

[Piratis]

Piratis,

Again we are discussing the past. I wanted to discuss the future as George_o suggested but I guess that is just not possible.

It is not possible simply because you and your friend viewpoint bring up the past in a super selective way, spice it up with some lies (e.g. your imaginary story that TCs were killed before the invasion in 1974) in order to generate hate and excuse the crimes you insist upon today.

If you refer to the past, I will also.

So what I propose for Cyprus is democracy, human rights for all people and no discriminations based on race, language, religion etc. To leave the past behind and create in Cyprus a democratic country like all the rest EU countries, based on human rights and democratic principles.

I didn't refer to the past, did I? I just asked for my country what every democrat citizen that respects himself and all others would ask. Nothing more and nothing less.

[MR-from-NG]

(e.g. your imaginary story that TCs were killed before the invasion in 1974) in order to generate hate and excuse the crimes you insist upon today.

What are you prepared to do if I find the Greek lady to confirm my version of events? Don't you think you are being unreasonable in calling me a liar? Why would I lie, what would I have to gain?

I am not the type to make up stories in order to generate hate towards the GC's. Please give the TC's a bit more credit. You really have very little respect if any for us.

[Pyrpolizer]

YES, I would sell. I have answered before but you obviously do not take in what you read. I would use the money to buy property elsewhere and thus support a solution but you obviously have other plans.

The solution has nothing to do with whether you will choose to sell or keep your property. This is a falsification cultivated among the masses (GCs/TCs) on purpose by those who dream of a pure GC/Tc state and final division. By keeping my property I actually help for the amalgamation of future generations, their complete (excuse me for the expression)… bastardation so that nobody could ever tell for sure if he is Greek or Turk. This is what will finally make a United Cyprus.

My avatar is to remind you of all the deaths that GC caused over our dark history and why TCs will always find it very difficult to forget and forgive or trust a GC ever again.

You said before you want to sell to help the solution. Now you say you cannot forget and trust hence you are saying you do not want a solution. So either the solution you have in mind is_partition or you are contradicting yourself!
Which one of the two is it Viewpoint?

NB.1)Only your suffering counts? How about our suffering?
2)Imho you should put 2 sculls in your Avatar, but that would be too scary don’t you think?

[Viewpoint]

Pyrpolizer

The solution has nothing to do with whether you will choose to sell or keep your property. This is a falsification cultivated among the masses (GCs/TCs) on purpose by those who dream of a pure GC/Tc state and final division. By keeping my property I actually help for the amalgamation of future generations, their complete (excuse me for the expression)… bastardation so that nobody could ever tell for sure if he is Greek or Turk. This is what will finally make a United Cyprus.

Finally some truth, so you want to keep hold of your disputed property to ensure we do not have a 2 state solution and that we get together and inter marry to create "Cypriots" who are confused about their ethnic origin. Do you know what you are saying? we want to swallow you up we are the majority we will assimilate you, just what we TCs want to hear

You said before you want to sell to help the solution. Now you say you cannot forget and trust hence you are saying you do not want a solution. So either the solution you have in mind is_partition or you are contradicting yourself!
Which one of the two is it Viewpoint?

NB.1)Only your suffering counts? How about our suffering?
2)Imho you should put 2 sculls in your Avatar, but that would be too scary don’t you think?

My selling of my land in the south will help a solution, I didnt mention what type of solution plus this type of rememdy will not on its own solve the overall problem there are still many more outstanding issues.

Trusting you is a completly different matter, this has to be earnt and does not come automatically.

As for the second skull feel free to use my avatar to refelct your own suffering I dont have any problems acknowledginf that you lit the fuse that exploded causing you suffering.

[Pyrpolizer]

Finally some truth, so you want to keep hold of your disputed property to ensure we do not have a 2 state solution and that we get together and inter marry to create "Cypriots" who are confused about their ethnic origin. Do you know what you are saying? we want to swallow you up we are the majority we will assimilate you, just what we TCs want to hear

My property is not disputed. It ‘s stolen. Go to the ECHR to find out.
Yes that’s is one of the reasons I will not accept to sell my property. In Democracy we have freedom of choice don’t we?

My selling of my land in the south will help a solution, I didnt mention what type of solution plus this type of rememdy will not on its own solve the overall problem there are still many more outstanding issues.

Why don’t you mention the type of solution then? Let me help you once again, it was written here:

You said before you want to sell to help the solution. Now you say you cannot forget and trust hence you are saying you do not want a solution. So either the solution you have in mind is_partition or you are contradicting yourself!
Which one of the two is it Viewpoint?

As for the second skull feel free to use my avatar to refelct your own suffering I dont have any problems acknowledginf that you lit the fuse that exploded causing you suffering.

I don’t enjoy necrophilia. You?

[Viewpoint]

Pyrpolizer

My property is not disputed. It ‘s stolen. Go to the ECHR to find out.
Yes that’s is one of the reasons I will not accept to sell my property. In Democracy we have freedom of choice don’t we?

Hey wake up we had a war, or have you forgotten everything is a dispute. If the land was not disputed you would be able to enjoy use thereof, until we resolve our differences its going to be disputed like it or not.

You go to the ECHR, if thats how you want to resolve the dispute about your land.

You can claim to have democracy in your country which is the "RoC" you have no juristiction here in the TRNC full stop.

Why don’t you mention the type of solution then? Let me help you once again, it was written here:

I have never made it a secret that the only solution is agreed partition for return of land. Neither side has the vision or desire to find a solution or it would have happened many years ago. All you are doing is fooling yourself and one day you to will wake up like me and realize that the only solution is what we have today all we have to do is sort out the land issue and agree to part once and for all.
Your and many other "Cypriots" actions to date back up my belief that we cannot solve anything and will go on like this for many many years to come.

don’t enjoy necrophilia. You?

You are a gross individual and your above comment is a reflection of your own character and mind more than anything else.

[Kifeas]

After careful observation of Viewpoint’s scull, and comparing it with modern human sculls, I have noticed that it resembles more the pre-Neanderthal sculls of Australopithecus, before evolution into the post Neanderthal ones. Did anyone else make the same observation?

[miltiades]

""You can claim to have democracy in your country which is the "RoC" you have no juristiction here in the TRNC full stop. ""

Viewpoint's belligerent statement , apostrophes on the RoC a nation recognized the world over , where the Turkish army creation he proudly advocates as the true Republic.
You will never convince any one apart from yourself that your pseudostate is any thing other than that. Common sense should prevail , nobody recognises the legality of the occupied part of Cyprus. In case you did nor realise there are 40 thousand Foreign troops in the pseudostate you so proudly present as "TRNC"
The scull you display seems to be missing the brain , are you telling us something.

[Viewpoint]

miltiades

Viewpoint's belligerent statement , apostrophes on the RoC a nation recognized the world over , where the Turkish army creation he proudly advocates as the true Republic.

Thats mine and many TCs viewpoint, the TRNC is all we know and recognized or not represents us and our struggle against what happened in the past. Your "RoC" is exactly that yours not ours.

You will never convince any one apart from yourself that your pseudostate is any thing other than that. Common sense should prevail , nobody recognises the legality of the occupied part of Cyprus.

Then go negotiate with them and see how far you get, our opinion is what is important not other countries.

In case you did nor realise there are 40 thousand Foreign troops in the pseudostate you so proudly present as "TRNC"

So? they are here to protect you as much as me from extremists exploiting the situation. We have maintained a peaceful existence after their arrival and if you compare it to the past pre 1974 I know which one I prefer.

The scull you display seems to be missing the brain , are you telling us something.

The skull is there to remind you of what we would have looked like if the Turkish army did not arrive and we were left to the mercy of GCs and Greeks.