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[Pyrpolizer]

Am I wrong when I point out that time is running out for you guys to negotiate a deal as a matter of urgency because the longer you delay it the less you will have to repossess?

Time just makes things more difficult . By more difficult I mean the side that performs illegalities (TC side) will pay a heavy price in the end. It does not mean the GC side will pay the price by accepting them. Repossesion is not a problem. 60 years after the 2 Germanies united, people got each and every of their stolen properties back.

So you have to think whether the TC side can afford to remain in limbo for ever. And what will happen when it cannot afford it anymore.Who you think is going to pay their own dept?

[Viewpoint]

Am I wrong when I point out that time is running out for you guys to negotiate a deal as a matter of urgency because the longer you delay it the less you will have to repossess?

Time just makes things more difficult . By more difficult I mean the side that performs illegalities (TC side) will pay a heavy price in the end. It does not mean the GC side will pay the price by accepting them. Repossesion is not a problem. 60 years after the 2 Germanies united, people got each and every of their stolen properties back.

So you have to think whether the TC side can afford to remain in limbo for ever. And what will happen when it cannot afford it anymore.Who you think is going to pay their own dept?

You are wrong the Polish people also had the same land dispute problems with 3 or more claimants and they resolved it by the current user compensating the former owners. Thats what will happen here in Cyprus as well the current user will have to compensate the claimant where property cannot be given back. Of course has time passes there will be less and less properties to hand back.

[Pyrpolizer]

You are wrong the Polish people also had the same land dispute problems with 3 or more claimants and they resolved it by the current user compensating the former owners. Thats what will happen here in Cyprus as well the current user will have to compensate the claimant where property cannot be given back. Of course has time passes there will be less and less properties to hand back.

I asked : "Who you think is going to pay their own dept?"
So in fact you are confirming what I said. The TC individuals are going to pay.

And what will happen if the current user cannot afford to pay? What will happen if the owner does not agree on the price? What will happen if the current user does not actually use it, or he uses it for profit?

Your example of Poland actually says you should be prepared to pay on individual basis. In other words you should stop having dreams the GCs will compensate themselves or the new State will pay the compensation on your individuals behalf. (as the case of Anan Plan was)
Furthermore you should realise that the more you exploit GC properties the more you actually plunge yourselves into deeeep personal dept.

[Viewpoint]

You are wrong the Polish people also had the same land dispute problems with 3 or more claimants and they resolved it by the current user compensating the former owners. Thats what will happen here in Cyprus as well the current user will have to compensate the claimant where property cannot be given back. Of course has time passes there will be less and less properties to hand back.

I asked : "Who you think is going to pay their own dept?"
So in fact you are confirming what I said. The TC individuals are going to pay.

And what will happen if the current user cannot afford to pay? What will happen if the owner does not agree on the price? What will happen if the current user does not actually use it, or he uses it for profit?

Your example of Poland actually says you should be prepared to pay on individual basis. In other words you should stop having dreams the GCs will compensate themselves or the new State will pay the compensation on your individuals behalf. (as the case of Anan Plan was)
Furthermore you should realise that the more you exploit GC properties the more you actually plunge yourselves into deeeep personal dept.

Thats surely our problem not yours, how the TCs, TRNC or Turkey want to pay is up to them all you have to do is accept and take the compensation. Are you willing to do so?

[Pyrpolizer]

Thats surely our problem not yours, how the TCs, TRNC or Turkey want to pay is up to them all you have to do is accept and take the compensation. Are you willing to do so?

I thought the question was about having "one Cyprus". Trnc is a pseudo and will evaporate after a solution. None of its past actions will have any meaning whatsoever.

Like I said, no I will not accept compensation I would even go to the ECHR and trash any such agreement. In fact I would trash any agreement that would deprive me my right to chose myself what to do. Who knows I may accept to become an equal partner (sic) in that hotel they builted on my property.

Would you take double the compensation and give me all your properties?

[Viewpoint]

Thats surely our problem not yours, how the TCs, TRNC or Turkey want to pay is up to them all you have to do is accept and take the compensation. Are you willing to do so?

I thought the question was about having "one Cyprus". Trnc is a pseudo and will evaporate after a solution. None of its past actions will have any meaning whatsoever.

Like I said, no I will not accept compensation I would even go to the ECHR and trash any such agreement. In fact I would trash any agreement that would deprive me my right to chose myself what to do. Who knows I may accept to become an equal partner (sic) in that hotel they builted on my property.

Would you take double the compensation and give me all your properties?

The TRNC Turkey God Mickey Mouse what do you care who pays as long as you get a fair compensation package, yet you still feel you would not accept it for the sake of a solution.

This is where we differ again I would sell without a second thought, I would take the compensation and go buy elsewhere. We to have property in the south where our parent were born and raised, I or my mother have no intention of going back and for a solution we would sell and buy here in the north.

Unfortunately for you if a hotel has been built on your land you have near enough zero chance of getting that land or a claim in the rights of the hotel back. You will have to settle for compensation either cash or alternative land in of a TC in the south.

[Pyrpolizer]

This is where we differ again I would sell without a second thought, I would take the compensation and go buy elsewhere.

You would be waiting to get your money for eternity.

Unfortunately for you if a hotel has been built on your land you have near enough zero chance of getting that land or a claim in the rights of the hotel back. You will have to settle for compensation either cash or alternative land in of a TC in the south.

Says who? I already told you that either they make me equal partner to the hotel or I will go to the ECHR and ask for its demolition. I am going to immitate your leadership!

[Viewpoint]

This is where we differ again I would sell without a second thought, I would take the compensation and go buy elsewhere.

You would be waiting to get your money for eternity.

Unfortunately for you if a hotel has been built on your land you have near enough zero chance of getting that land or a claim in the rights of the hotel back. You will have to settle for compensation either cash or alternative land in of a TC in the south.

Says who? I already told you that either they make me equal partner to the hotel or I will go to the ECHR and ask for its demolition. I am going to immitate your leadership!

Do what you wish, its your right to go and put your case forward, the result no one can guarantee. 32 years and how closer are you to getting your property back obviously what you are doing is not paying dividends.

You still avoid the question would you sell if you knew 100% you would get compensation for the sake of achieving a solution?

[Kifeas]

As if it was not enough having to tolerate reading Viewpoint's posts in the forum, from now on we will also have to tolerate seeing her portrait next to them too.

[Viewpoint]

As if it was not enough having to tolerate reading Viewpoint's posts in the forum, from now on we will also have to tolerate seeing her portrait next to them too.

You think are the oracle tell me what that skull represents Kifeas