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[Bananiot]

I thought your ingenious question was directed at Kikapu, but if you intent to carry on speaking about "ghoasts" please learn at least to spell it properly

[Kifeas]

You are too clever for your own good young man. Possession is nine tenths of the law. You don't have the luxury of making me such ridiculous offers. Be more reasonable and I'll give you some land back, behave like you have been I'll give you nothing back. I have the luxury of calling the tunes as I am in possession.

Okay little cynical and provocative individual. There is no point discussing anything further, if this is the logic with which you want to solve the problems. We will just wait patiently until we get the opportunity to become in possession of everything that you currently posses, in the same way that you posses it, and then we will remind you the above little theories of yours. After all, life is a wheel and turns around!

[Piratis]

How exactly can we negotiate with somebody that tells us that possession is all that matters? Based on that logic we should only concentrate on how we can take possession and forget about everything else since everything else is non essential according to them.

[MR-from-NG]

Okay little cynical and provocative individual. There is no point discussing anything further, if this is the logic with which you want to solve the problems. We will just wait patiently until we get the opportunity to become in possession of everything that you currently posses, in the same way that you posses it, and then we will remind you the above little theories of yours. After all, life is a wheel and turns around!

Kifeas, I'm not at all as you describe me. I'd like to think I'm a fair person and respect my fellow men. I don't say things to provoke. I see a bigger picture than you guys. You have been blinkered and mislead by your statesmen, you are being given false hope. Am I wrong when I point out that time is running out for you guys to negotiate a deal as a matter of urgency because the longer you delay it the less you will have to repossess?

Yes its a fact "possession is nine tenths of the law". Cyprus is a classic example of this, we have had possession of your land (right or wrong, that's a different matter) for 33 years, what have you done or going to do about it?

[Kifeas]

Yes its a fact "possession is nine tenths of the law". Cyprus is a classic example of this, we have had possession of your land (right or wrong, that's a different matter) for 33 years, what have you done or going to do about it?

Mrfromng, there is no point discussing the above nonsense any longer. Illegal possession of something is called a theft, and a theft can never become the law! The above cliché that you keep quoting may be true in the case of expired leasehold contracts of civil national law, but it is meaningless and irrelevant in our case. Cyprus problem is not a case of an expired leashold contract, in which case the beholder gets priority and a first option, but an international problem and one of illegal invasion and illegal occupation of one country by another. If this is the case, why you did not manage yet to legalize the 1974 theft, why do you keep negotiating with us in the first place and you say that you want to reach a settlement and you even complain that Papadopoulos doesn’t want to negotiate with Talat, and finally, why do you set up property committees in the north through which you say you plan to return properties back to the GCs?

[MR-from-NG]

Mrfromng, there is no point discussing the above nonsense any longer. Illegal possession of something is called a theft, and a theft can never become the law! The above cliché that you keep quoting may be true in the case of expired leasehold contracts of civil national law, but it is meaningless and irrelevant in our case. Cyprus problem is not a case of an expired leashold contract, in which case the beholder gets priority and a first option, but an international problem and one of illegal invasion and illegal occupation of one country by another. If this is the case, why you did not manage yet to legalize the 1974 theft, why do you keep negotiating with us in the first place and you say that you want to reach a settlement and you even complain that Papadopoulos doesn’t want to negotiate with Talat, and finally, why do you set up property committees in the north through which you say you plan to return properties back to the GCs?

So the UN is an organisation that encourages and condones theft then. Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you guys told it would be best for Cyprus if the TC's kept a significant percentage of what they stole from you and for you guys to be compensated? To which you voted NO. Do you honestly believe the next plan or the next hundred plans over the next 500 years would be any different to the one you said no to?

This is what I mean about you running out of time. Negotiate sooner rather than later. At least there is something still available now. However 10, 20 or thirty years later there will be nothing.

Trust me, even in the Cyprus scenario possession is the same it is nine tenths of the law. That's a fact.

[Pyrpolizer]

If you're not willing to give up any of your Human Rights, and I can't tell you which ones you should give up, and since we all going to have to give up something in return for the benefit of Cyprus, does it really matter which ones we all need to give up.

Yes it matters if only the GCs have to give up something.

All we hear all the time is the TCs need to get something better than what they already have. Constitutionally even better than the 1960 agreements.
So can you tell me what they are willing to give up from their human rights?

Bananiot this question is for all TCs of the forum including you.

[Pyrpolizer]

Bananiot the King of rhetorics nd monologues.


You are not even man enough to tell what those limited violations of my human rights are going to be.

Just curious what diverted speach we are going to hear from you again…

[Pyrpolizer]

I thought your ingenious question was directed at Kikapu, but if you intent to carry on speaking about "ghoasts" please learn at least to spell it properly

Spell checker mou esy.

Now that you ve learned it’s for you will you ever answer, or will you continue fighting with your red,blue,white and whatever "ghoasts" you created in your little brain?

[miltiades]

Mrfromng , any solution must be acceptable to all Cypriots . If the vast majority feel that it is an unfair solution , no politician can impose such solution on the people. The T/Cs must also see that they also have to negotiate with the majority.You can not simply suggest that if a solution is deemed necessary then the only party too negotiate is the G/C side. The AP was seen by the majority , including my self , to be favouring one side and legalising the invasion of Cyprus. Put your self in the G/Cs shoes and I'm sure you will see that they do have some real concerns that have to be addressed not least by Turkey. If we were to examine just one area of the AP , that of Police stations divided 50-50 and each side flying the Greek and Turkish flag respectively , don't you think that this particular anomaly has to be addressed .There are many Cypriots such as my self and indeed many T/Cs who would object entering a Police station that has the Greek or Turkish flag flying. The first thing we ought to concentrate upon should be the gradual demotion of Greek , and Turkish mainland influence and the promotion of our Cypriot identity. The Turkish authorities must also see this is a hindrance towards finding a solution.