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[Bananiot]

Pyrpolyser, its plain obvious that you are the defeatist person because you have nothing to offer to your country. You are here, you say, to debate issues with TC's but all you are doing is creating a bigger and bigger chasm between us. You can not even debate in a civilised manner with moderate TC's and thus you are absolutely useless to Cyprus. At best, all you can achieve is to convince all that we cannot live together and that partition, under the circumstances, will be the best solution. This has been the motto of many people like you who appear to be uncompromising in order to thwart any efforts for peace. Their prescription is plain, the more patriotic they sound the more people they convince. Well, I know your kind and I can smell your latent fascism from miles.

[growuptcs]

Its amazing how the Turks are trying to negotiate on this site by saying take this deal or it'll never work. Or else you'll be completely out everything like mrfromng and followers state. Seriously, take a minute please and listen to yourselves like adults now, because the (child and animal) thoughts that go through your heads have really gone too far at this point. How long is it going to take for you to realize if we're not going to be treated as equals from here on in then theres no moving on, house and property taking bullys.

[MR-from-NG]

GrowupGC, let me put it like this to you. Imagine for just one minute that the negotiations had progressed so much that it is just days away from all the relevant parties from signing on the dotted line. However there is just one outstanding issue before it can be finalised. This issue concerns you. Your ongoing claim to repossess 10 acres of land you own in Ayorgi. Unless you withdraw your claim and accept a considerable amount of compensation as a final settlement the negotiations will come to a halt, the future of the island depends on your decision, what would you do?

[Piratis]

Would you accept the reverse mrfromng? Thats TCs would make sacrifices from their own human rights? If we demanded such thing would you even negotiate with us?

Would you accept TCs having 9% of the land for example?

[MR-from-NG]

Piratis, hand on heart I would. If I'm being compensated for my land and giving up my fight to repossess would mean an end to the problems yes I would.

[Piratis]

If you accept that TCs will keep the 9% instead of the 37% or 29% then I even accept the Annan plan with this modification.

So now we agreed between us, we have nothing more to argue or debate about and therefore you should now go and convince the other Turkish Cypriots about this.

[MR-from-NG]

You are behaving just as I would expect, you are twisting it all in a way to suit you. I am talking on individual cases here. Why the hell should I be offered 9% when I already posses more than 30. You are too clever for your own good young man. Possession is nine tenths of the law. You don't have the luxury of making me such ridiculous offers. Be more reasonable and I'll give you some land back, behave like you have been I'll give you nothing back. I have the luxury of calling the tunes as I am in possession.

You are the type whose glass is always half empty, you are so unreasonable and greedy you cant accept the glass is half full. That is just the type of attitude which will be your downfall.

Please don't come back with human rights and all that crap, I'm tired of reading these ridiculous posts by you.

[Kifeas]

You are behaving just as I would expect, you are twisting it all in a way to suit you. I am talking on individual cases here. Why the hell should I be offered 9% when I already posses more than 30. You are too clever for your own good young man. Possession is nine tenths of the law. You don't have the luxury of making me such ridiculous offers. Be more reasonable and I'll give you some land back, behave like you have been I'll give you nothing back. I have the luxury of calling the tunes as I am in possession.

You are the type whose glass is always half empty, you are so unreasonable and greedy you cant accept the glass is half full. That is just the type of attitude which will be your downfall.

Please don't come back with human rights and all that crap, I'm tired of reading these ridiculous posts by you.

I beg you pardon …but, in which way do you already “posses” 30%? Are you saying that because Turkey illegally occupies the 36% of Cyprus, that this automatically translates that you legally “posses” that territory? Is this the basis on which you will come to negotiate, i.e. what Turkey has managed to illegally crab from us in 1974?

[Kikapu]

I thought I will post this one more time for those who may have missed it. Think Cyprus first people, before thinking of what you all want individually. Do you want one Cyprus or not, that is the main question, and how much are you all willing to give to it ( Cyprus ).

Pyrpolizer,

Above was the original question. Please note, that I was asking you all to think of Cyprus first before your individual selves. If you're not willing to give up any of your Human Rights, and I can't tell you which ones you should give up, and since we all going to have to give up something in return for the benefit of Cyprus, does it really matter which ones we all need to give up. No doubt some will end up giving more than others. Hopefully, in time, we can all get them back again in a step by step method. Or you can keep them all, as you have now, but that doesn't seem to produce the results to get "ONE CYPRUS" now, does it.

[Pyrpolizer]

Possession is nine tenths of the law.

Illegal possession is zero tenths of the law. It’s like telling me someone who stole a Mercedes has 9/10ths of the law/or power with him. All he can do is just split the car and sell the spear parts for peanuts to some other thieves. Then what?
On the other hand I agree with you that both the Gcs and the Tcs are losing from this situation.
I don’t agree that time is working in favor of the TCs.

Pyrpolyser, its plain obvious that you are the defeatist person because you have nothing to offer to your country. You are here, you say, to debate issues with TC's but all you are doing is creating a bigger and bigger chasm between us. You can not even debate in a civilised manner with moderate TC's and thus you are absolutely useless to Cyprus. At best, all you can achieve is to convince all that we cannot live together and that partition, under the circumstances, will be the best solution. This has been the motto of many people like you who appear to be uncompromising in order to thwart any efforts for peace. Their prescription is plain, the more patriotic they sound the more people they convince. Well, I know your kind and I can smell your latent fascism from miles.

Yeah, start fighting with your ghoasts ….again. After you are done read this ….once again and in case your ghoasts did not defeat you… once again - then reply:

You are not even man enough to tell what those limited violations of my human rights are going to be.