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[Kikapu]

I would say 6 , only because is my favourite number.

Miltiades,

I'm not going to doubt you as to what number you think you're on the scale from 1-10, but from where I stand and read what you write, with the added flavour of slight "mean spiritness" in your comments, I would have turned the 6 upside down, and made it into an even 9 for you.

[miltiades]

6 was the last number of my birth year and 9 was the day I was born so I guess 6 , 9 are compatible in more ways than one , so after 6 9 is my second favourite number .
Mentioning my dislikes earlier I omitted one thing. London Traffic wardens , the most ignorant uncivilized bunch of useless bastards , and yet we put up with them .On average my company's parking tickets are just over 200 a year , at £50 each that means £10000.00 Do i dislike traffic wardens , I most certainly do . I think they should be shipped out to Bagdad to control the traffic there.I made this suggestion to the traffic director of London and do you know what ? He did not have the courtesy to reply !! Even to suggest an alternative destination such as Karbul !

[Bananiot]

Miltiades, thank you for sharing your beliefs with us. I know that this day and age it is difficult to define what is left and what is right. Rather, it is probably easier to define left, despite the turmoil of the late 80's and early 90's. I have noted the diplomatic way you chose to answer a specific question but this is your right. Also, I find it strange that you chose to ditch labour this time round on account of Blair's wife. Are you sure the other's man wife is any better? By the way, Blair may quit by the time of the next general elections. Are you likely to review the way you will cast your vote in this case.

Let's go back to the left and right debate for a moment. In my opinion, leftists are the people that always want to question things, soul search and debate with a view of changing things for the better. I think this is progress. Many people who "think" that they are right wingers are really more to the left than the right. On the contrary, right wingers are usually dogmatic in their beliefs and do not like disturbing the status quo. They remain attached to tradition, hence they are sceptical of new ideas and are usually against progress.

P.S. Traffic wardens are not there to be liked. I did like one the other day when I was handed with a 15 pound ticket, but she was a 6 ft blonde. I said, thank you very much, glad to do it again. She burst into laughter, but still I had to pay the fine.

[miltiades]

Bananiot , after work , I will answer in depth the points you raised , just a quickie on Blair's wife , I'm aware that Tony Blair will not be leading the labour party at the next election. My dislike of his wife , very pompous and greedy , has been one of the main reasons for switching to the Conservatives at the next election. The labour party on the whole has been good for Britain , their policies on immigration , asylum seekers , crime and high taxation have not been popular with a large section of the British people. The fact that the Labour party has remained silent on the issue of Mrs Blair defending a a very sensitive case that has far wider implications for Cyprus has infuriated me. The party do not deserve my vote. You do I'm sure recognise my hidden humour in some of my posts , there is actually one such " innuendo " in this post.

[Piratis]

In my opinion, leftists are the people that always want to question things, soul search and debate with a view of changing things for the better.

Do you know anybody that doesn't want what he considers to be better??? Everybody thinks that his own beliefs are the better ones. Sorry, but your definition is ridiculous.

Here is a better one from Google:

A broad range of political ideology that is denouncing the of economic and social inequality in the present order of society and advocating the adoption of vigorous public policies to reduce or eliminate these inequalities in opposition of the political agenda of the rightist. Common political paths include socialism , communism , social democracy, welfare statism, contemporary American liberalism and anarchy.

The basic principle of the left is that all citizens should be equal without racist, sexist or other kind of discriminations. At the extreme left (communism) people should also be equal in terms of how much they own - which shouldn't be much since most things would be common.

With social democracy (the "modern" version of left) we have democracy that by legislation it restricts the capitalists (=higher taxes for the rich, publicly owned companies for common interest etc), ensures that there are no racist, sexist or other discriminations among the citizens of a country, and it strives to give equal opportunities to all people by investing in free education, health care etc.

Apparently Bananiot you like the word "leftist", like you like the word "united". Unfortunately it is not about the words, but it is about the essence.

Your support to inequalities among citizens based on their race, and your support to a party that serves the interests of the capitalists more than any other (DISY), would make you at least an 8 in the scale you gave.

[Bananiot]

Once again you make a fool of yourself Piratis, even on this subject which is fairly "innocent" and is not really offered for point scoring.

Anyway, for a year or more you are trying to convince youself that I am a DISI supporter and voter when I revealed to all my political affiliations on numerous occasions. If it makes you better, you may carry on believing that I support DISI, that is fine with me. After all, I do want the best for you.

When I said that

"In my opinion, leftists are the people that always want to question things, soul search and debate with a view of changing things for the better. I think this is progress".

i was referring of course, better for society at large. But, your little mind translated it for personal gain and thus, after you created your own daemon you gave him a good beating, as per usual.

[Piratis]

You are making a fool of yourself with the ridiculous definitions that you give.

i was referring of course, better for society at large. But, your little mind translated it for personal gain and thus, after you created your own daemon you gave him a good beating, as per usual.

You are the one with the little mind, otherwise you would understand that the right-wingers (e.g. you) also think that what they believe is better for society at large.

The difference between left and right is not the difference between wanting the good for society VS wanting the bad for society, but a different view of how this "good" is defined and how it can be achieved.

Anyway, for a year or more you are trying to convince youself that I am a DISI supporter and voter when I revealed to all my political affiliations on numerous occasions. If it makes you better, you may carry on believing that I support DISI, that is fine with me. After all, I do want the best for you.

I don't care what you vote. I said you are a DISY supporter, and this is shown from your posts in this forum were you always support the actions of this party and its leaders (e.g. Clerides) while you criticize almost everybody else. Your support for this party is clear and undeniable.

[Pyrpolizer]

For instance in the UK during the last 3 elections I voted Labour , I do not intend to do so next time round , mainly because of Mrs. Blair with her insatiable appetite for money

On that scale I occassionally hit - 2 and +12. This leftists - rights concept is too old imo. Did you hear what the 4 bash communist MPs of AKEL did yesterday to satisfy their appetite for money?
They refused to deposit their provident fund (around 300, 000 pounds) to the party. Too much money my friend. AKEL expelled them all in a single strike.
What the hell though, they are still communists with 300, 000 pounds in their pockets!!!

Let's go back to the left and right debate for a moment. In my opinion, leftists are the people that always want to question things, soul search and debate with a view of changing things for the better. I think this is progress. Many people who "think" that they are right wingers are really more to the left than the right. On the contrary, right wingers are usually dogmatic in their beliefs and do not like disturbing the status quo. They remain attached to tradition, hence they are sceptical of new ideas and are usually against progress.

Is that a new definition for leftists - rightists? Here’s another one: The leftists are the poor who want to become rich. The rightists are the rich who want to stay rich. Progress and bullshit! All they all care is their pockets.

[Pyrpolizer]

When you make silly statements regarding your doubts about me wanting partition, then all I can say to that is, you're so off base, that you probably can't even smell your own fart.

I can tell the same for you counting me out in wanting a solution. At least I reverted asking to have a clearer picture. And what did I get from you? I got this:

How are your basic human right are violated if the two sides were in control of running the country. You still get to vote to whom ever you wanted, you can live where ever you wanted, and you can get married to whom ever you wanted. You would have your freedom of speech, and best of all, you would have a long lasting peace. Does this sound like a partition to you. The TC's need the equal voice in the government, because of the past events. Otherwise, why should they want to be ruled by a government that they have very little trust in right now. You make a deal with the TC's to be a partner, and then the troops will go back to Turkey. No fighting, no blood, no retributions.

The fact is you gave me a list that does NOT violate my_human_rights.

May I remind you what I said: "I will not accept violation of my human rights otherwise that would not be Cyprus it would be hell". And you said "if that’s so then you are out from those who want one Cyprus".

Will you ever give me a list of my human rights that have_to_ be_ violated, so you can count me in those who want one Cyprus? I am waiting …..

Lets take a lesson from Iraq. They have 3 main groups. Shites 60%, Sunnis 20% and Kurds 20%. They suppose to have a "unity government". Do you really believe that they are united. The 60% is ruling everyone. Just because the Sunnis and the Kurds have some cabinet posts, is doing very little to stop the violence, which is created within the government. Because the Sunnis and the Kurd are a minority in the government set up, the problems are on going, and it will be question of time, when all hell is going to break loose. Do you really want the same for us, or something much better than that. This is the compromise that you (GC's) needs to make, and in return, the TC's can then wave the troops back to Turkey.

This affects the political rights of a tiny group of politicians. Political rights are not basic human rights. I am not a politician. I am a simple citizen. Give me a list of my human rights that have_to_ be_ violated.

[Kikapu]

[Will you ever give me a list of my human rights that have_to_ be_ violated, so you can count me in those who want one Cyprus? I am waiting …...

Why don't you write down which human rights "violations" that you cannot live with, to have one Cyprus. Everyone cannot have everything they want with all that has happened in Cyprus in the last 42 years. So how much are you willing to make a contribution to have a lasting peace.