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[miltiades]

Yiasou kardash ???

[Bananiot]

If human rights grew on trees, Pyrpoliser would burn the tree down in order to reach them.

[Bananiot]

Miltiades, people here get the impression that you are a tough right winger. On a scale from 1 to 10, where 1 is extreme left and 10 is extreme right, what score would you give yourself?

I go first, I am probably 4 but my views are not fixed because they swing according to the issue. In fact others can answer my question too if they so wish.

[andri_cy]

I think I would be something between 4 and 5

[MR-from-NG]

I think I would be something between 4 and 5

That would be 4 and a half.

[MR-from-NG]

Yiasou Miltiades,

Do you know one of the things that really upset me with the Cyprus problem is the fact that it prevented me from learning Greek. My father speaks it really well, even fluent. I remember as a kid when he used to speak to his Greek friends he used to sound cool. I think Greek is a nice language, bloody shame 'm too old to learn now.

That's another thing I can blame you guys for. Had the troubles not started I would have stayed in Cyprus and probably been fluent in Greek.

[Pyrpolizer]

If human rights grew on trees, Pyrpoliser would burn the tree down in order to reach them.

No, I would burn the Banana tree for obstructing my way of climbing the "human rights tree" .
Then go tell the monkies "my condolences"

[Kikapu]

I know we have beaten the Cyprus issue to death by now, but would like to pose this question anyway. If there were no 40,000 Turkish troops in the northern Cyprus, but instead there were UN peace keepers to keep the two sides apart. Now, the majority (GC's) would like to make a peace offer to the minority (TC's) that they (TC's) will find it very hard to refuse.

I saw this before and I am surprised nobody replied you.
This offer i.e the dismantling of the GC National Guard and substitute the Turkish Army with a UN or International Army paid totally by RoC was made by Klerides.

Did you say they can’t refuse ?
Well guess what?

THEY REFUSED IT!


Mark my words Kikapu: Your leadership, your motherland, and the vast majority of TCs wanted, want, and will continue wanting the partition I talked before. In the beginning I beleived what the leftists were saying… I discovered first hand all their fairy tales were far from reality.

Well, the offer that I was asking from my Greek coutrymen to make to my Turkish countrymen, was not about troop replacement. Had you read more, you would have found out that, had there were no Turkish troops but instead UN were there, basicly to remove one of the sore point that the GC's have, what kind of offer that the GC's would have made, that the TC's would find it very hard to refuse to solve the political problem, was the main object of my question. Of course the troop replacement that Klerides offer was refused with the UN troops, because there were probably no political solution on the table. ( I'll take your word on this that the troop offer was made)

[Kikapu]

Kikapu,

If you seriously think that "one Cyprus" should mean discounts on anyones basic human rights, then you should better ask us for Kimpuktu instead.

I had some reservations before, about you, but now I am convinced:
You are no different than the vast majority of TCs who want partition as I described it.

When you make silly statements regarding your doubts about me wanting partition, then all I can say to that is, you're so off base, that you probably can't even smell your own fart. I know what you (GC's) want, and I know what the TC's want, and for sure neither can have everything they want. How are your basic human right are violated if the two sides were in control of running the country. You still get to vote to whom ever you wanted, you can live where ever you wanted, and you can get married to whom ever you wanted. You would have your freedom of speech, and best of all, you would have a long lasting peace. Does this sound like a partition to you. The TC's need the equal voice in the government, because of the past events. Otherwise, why should they want to be ruled by a government that they have very little trust in right now. You make a deal with the TC's to be a partner, and then the troops will go back to Turkey. No fighting, no blood, no retributions. Can you think of a better way to send the Turkish troops back home.

Lets take a lesson from Iraq. They have 3 main groups. Shites 60%, Sunnis 20% and Kurds 20%. They suppose to have a "unity government". Do you really believe that they are united. The 60% is ruling everyone. Just because the Sunnis and the Kurds have some cabinet posts, is doing very little to stop the violence, which is created within the government. Because the Sunnis and the Kurd are a minority in the government set up, the problems are on going, and it will be question of time, when all hell is going to break loose. Do you really want the same for us, or something much better than that. This is the compromise that you (GC's) needs to make, and in return, the TC's can then wave the troops back to Turkey. If nothing happens, then you will have a partition, not because I wanted it, but because you did nothing to prevent it from happening.

[miltiades]

Bananiot I too react and formulate opinions whether they lean left or right depending on the events. For instance in the UK during the last 3 elections I voted Labour , I do not intend to do so next time round , mainly because of Mrs. Blair with her insatiable appetite for money , she needs plenty of it after all her hairdressing bill is over 20000 pounds per year.
As to where I stand in scale of 1 to 10 , I'm most certainly not an extremist leftist or right winger , but generally I do lean towards the right , I have an extremely low level of tolerance towards what I see as stupidity whether is to do with politics , business or any other walk of life. I do not subscribe to the ridiculous notions of multi culture societies being good for you , political correctness , religious absurdities and above all in the widely projected philosophy so prevalent amongst our own people , that of justifying the means in order to achieve the ends that are beyond reach. Its the old cliche , the end justifies the means. I dead against further immigration into the UK and would introduce a a tough set of rules to those that arrive. This makes a right winger. I would abolish all asylum seeker's nonsense , this makes me an extreme right winger.
I would spend much more on our British health care and education would increase pensions substantially , would tax the rich more , would abolish the House Of Lords as well as the honours system and would also tightly control faith schools that are raping little minds and brainwashing them.
As far as Cyprus is concerned , my views have been posted many times. I despise the fact that my birth country is partly occupied , I consider that not only the G/Cs but also the T/Cs are victims of massive historical events that were perpertraded up on them by misguided individuals or Government and Religious establishments. I feel that the Cypriot Greek and Turk , if you remove the nationalistic and in a lesser way the religious difference , they are similar people with exacting needs and similar outlook to life.
I would say 6 , only because is my favourite number.