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Postby Snad » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:45 am

miltiades wrote: I believe that America saved Europe from the Nazis.


Excuse me!!!

I do beg to differ. They only went into the war at the end. I am not saying they didn't help, but come on that is a bit far fetched and an insult to the British Army, Navy and Air Force.
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Postby cypezokyli » Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:57 pm

Snad wrote:
miltiades wrote: I believe that America saved Europe from the Nazis.


Excuse me!!!

I do beg to differ. They only went into the war at the end. I am not saying they didn't help, but come on that is a bit far fetched and an insult to the British Army, Navy and Air Force.


and as far as we dont like it : the red army :wink:
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:06 pm

Snad the Americans went to war after the Pearl harbour bombing by the Japs on December 7th 1941 .The war ended in 1946 , so they did not enter the war as you say towards the end.
Read the following:

Why America Entered World War II
Many reasons, including that Nazi Germany was sinking American supply ships because the US was providing financial and military support to the Allied troops (England, France, China and Russia).

Most importantly, Japan attacked the US naval base at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, without a declaration of war or any warning that hostlities were being commenced, sinking most of the battle fleet.

The day after the attack, December 7th, 1941, President Roosevelt went before the US Congress and asked for a formal declaration of War with Japan in retaliation. With the exception of Janet Rankin (Montana), the US Congress voted unamiously for War.

President Roosevelt never asked for war with Italy or Germany before the Congress. Instead, three days after December 7th, Italy and Germany declared war on the United States.

The US stayed neutral in WWII until the US Naval Base at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii was bombed by the Japanese on December 7, 1941. The Japanese were then enemies of the United States.

As mentioned, the Japanese attacked the US Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor, then the US bases in the Philippines. The US declared war on Japan, then a few days later Hitler declared war on the US, followed by a US declaration of war against Germany, and thus US was fully involved in the war.

FDR wanted us in the war. He made very public statements, not one, not two, but three separate attacks that Germans made on US vessels carrying civilians, no less. (I don't have their name on me because I'm at work, but The Idiot's Guide to WW2 does) Our isolationist populace wanted no part of the war in Europe. FDR did. We did pressure the Japanese with embargoes and made a bad economic situation with them much worse. We probably forced their hand. Then Pearl Harbor happened, and Hitler (in what is quoted as "the greatest military blunder in history") declared war on the US so that Japan would also attack the russians on their eastern side (which they never did)Hitler was fighting a war on two fornts (which he knew was a major reason germany lost ww1)if he could force Russia to also fight a two front war he might just get a shot at Moscow. (which the germans were in sight of before being repulsed). Hitler did not know how bad off the japanese were and thought they would help him because (by his own words)"we have allied with an army that has not seen defeat in over a thousand years" (which was true). Wilson did borrow money from them so was under influence. and Isreal and we are viewed as the terrorists of the world by many. we do have the most weapons of mass destruction in the world and we train people all over the world in how to usurp their governments and we have funded a 50 million dollar a year terrorist campaign against Cuba (since the kenedy administration)and we helped put him in office because he was adictator that could be bought. No wwe don't like him because he wants to run things his way. The previous leader was elected very democratically but we didn't like his policies.
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Postby dixi » Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:19 pm

Not sure how this became a WWII subject. Anyone evacuated to the island will be treated well. I hope Cypriots are not overwhelmed though! Just think tens of thousands of Americans and Australians at once. Probably landing in Larnaca. :shock:

miltiades, i was following you then you lost me.

[/quote]Wilson did borrow money from them so was under influence. and Isreal and we are viewed as the terrorists of the world by many. we do have the most weapons of mass destruction in the world and we train people all over the world in how to usurp their governments and we have funded a 50 million dollar a year terrorist campaign against Cuba (since the kenedy administration)and we helped put him in office because he was adictator that could be bought. No wwe don't like him because he wants to run things his way. The previous leader was elected very democratically but we didn't like his policies.[/quote]
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:59 pm

Dixi , I'm sorry , that was an extract taken from Google , forget which site , and I think I copied the item that followed the main article "Why America entered WW2, "as you can see the article refers to " we " and of course I would not use this since I'm not American.
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Postby unique_earthling » Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:12 pm

Bring em on in... :wink:
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Postby andri_cy » Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:13 pm

Kikapu wrote:
jennyluvscypriots wrote: Most educated Americans do know the whole North/South Cyprus thing but only if they've been exsposed to a Cypriot :D


I tried to expose myself to as many Americans as possible, but they're so many and with so little time.!!!!



lol Kikapu not the kind of exposure your twisted little mind is thinking of! :oops:
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Postby dixi » Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:21 pm

andri_cy wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
jennyluvscypriots wrote: Most educated Americans do know the whole North/South Cyprus thing but only if they've been exsposed to a Cypriot :D


I tried to expose myself to as many Americans as possible, but they're so many and with so little time.!!!!



lol Kikapu not the kind of exposure your twisted little mind is thinking of! :oops:


Kikapu is like most men. After all, they just want lots of exposure!
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Postby andri_cy » Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:22 pm

Amen Dixi...
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Postby Cypriotatheart » Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:18 am

The ports are only being used as a stopover whilst waiting for flights or ships out of Cyprus. I see no problem in the short term stay, it could give Cyprus some good publicity for its welcoming attitude and is an expression of the safety of living in Cyprus.
However, I do not think these people should be allowed to automatically think they can stay for a long time but I haven't seen any who are intending to do this.
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