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[Kikapu]

Kikapu,

You took from me 1 dollar.
If you give me back 2 cents I am a lot better than before amn’t I?
FYI this was the logic of the Anan Plan. And this was the logic behind your question.

Sorry, I don’t buy.

I was only answering your original question regarding the number of troops that you were concerned about. As for the above statement, the 2 cents would be more than what the TC's would have gotten, had the Enosis went ahead in the 60's. In any case, I hope you will get your full $ 1 dollar back one of these days, when ever PappaD whats to make a deal to achieve that.

[Pyrpolizer]

I hope you will get your full $ 1 dollar back one of these days, when ever PappaD whats to make a deal to achieve that.

Is there such a proposal for a deal by your Talaturi that His Excellency the President Mr Tassos Papadopoulos is unaware of?

[Kikapu]

I hope you will get your full $ 1 dollar back one of these days, when ever PappaD whats to make a deal to achieve that.

Is there such a proposal for a deal by your Talaturi that His Excellency the President Mr Tassos Papadopoulos is unaware of?

Since you hold your President at such high regards (despite his past history), he should be able to muster plenty of international support to force the pathetic little TC leaders into a conference to find a solution. After all, your President can act as "big brother" to push things along. His people have much more to gain than than the TC's. Lets ask him to be Presidential and actually do something worthwhile. My guess is, he wants to retain his position as giving hope to his people, since he cannot deliver them to their properties. This keeps him in power, which is what he really wants over anything else.

[Realist]

The fact that the opposing side doesn't like our President is a good indication that he's doing a good job. If the occupies of our land supported our leaders then this should ring some warning bells.

Wouldn't Turks be suspisious if the Kurds or Armenians starting having Erdogan celebrations?

[cypezokyli]

The fact that the opposing side doesn't like our President is a good indication that he's doing a good job.

so denktash was also doing a "good" job ?

[Realist]

For the cause of the Turks, of course he was doing a good job.

Your own people can tell you that. I bet Denktash has more support from Mainland Turks then he has from the TC. Last time I looked into he's ratings in Turkey he was regarded as a national hero.

[Pyrpolizer]

Lets ask him to be Presidential and actually do something worthwhile.
My guess is, he wants to retain his position as giving hope to his people, since he cannot deliver them to their properties.

Don’t worry we watch him very carefully and we can assure you he does an excellent job.
FYI our technical committees are fully ready and are working on 24 hour basis waiting yours for a long time now. At the meeting with UN representative Mr Cambari he was the ONLY one who dared go there with written proposals. What worthy did Talat do so far?

If Honourable Mr Papadopoulos does not succeed in getting our rights back, then I can assure you nobody else will, and the status quo will continue for ever.

I actually pitty Talat. He once boasts around telling the channels "I want to meet Papadopoulos and discuss with him the solution on any basis he likes", and the next day Turkey tells him "no you will not discuss anything out of the Anan Plan". Hands up!

So you TC guys don’t expect everything from the Gcs and Honourable Mr Papadopoulos. If you want a solution, move your little finger as well. Turkey is treating you like puppets. It is your future in this country, not their future….

[cypezokyli]

For the cause of the Turks, of course he was doing a good job.

Your own people can tell you that. I bet Denktash has more support from Mainland Turks then he has from the TC. Last time I looked into he's ratings in Turkey he was regarded as a national hero.

the problem realist , is that if we follow this way of thinking (realist one) and we vote the leaders the others dont like , and they do the same , the only logical outcome to expect is partition.

look around , places where peace rules, after long years of wars , was achieved precisely bc the people changed their leaders. the historical examples are numerous. leaders that play the nationalist card , have been throughout the history really popular (and as your argument goes- leaders that were hated by their opponents) , but in practise , there was usually no real outcome in the foreign policy.

[Pyrpolizer]

Hi Realist,

Watch out man. Cypezokyli and Bananiot are GCs.

I can understand your confussion though.

[Kikapu]

[quote="PyrpolizerI actually pitty Talat. He once boasts around telling the channels "I want to meet Papadopoulos and discuss with him the solution on any basis he likes", and the next day Turkey tells him "no you will not discuss anything out of the Anan Plan". Hands up!….[/quote]

If this is your only problem, then I have the answer for you. Why doesn't Papadopoulos just by-pass Talat, and deal with Turkey instead, which he would have to anyway. Now surely Papadopoulos could have figured that much if he really wanted to talk about a settlement, or doesn't he want one.?