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[miltiades]

cypezokyli , absolute rubbish , it is the fanatical Islamist terrorists , the cancerous growth of Islamic fanaticism that is responsible for all the disgusting hideous crimes that are committed in every corner of the world. Face it , its not the IRA its not the Christian brigade , its not black September it is the fanatics and the sick perverted ideologies that drive them to commit such horrific acts. Islam is responsible for these people. Islam has to put its house in order , all of Europe are demanding that the Islamic leaders take action to eradicate these barbaric acts.Dont give me that analogy of American soldiers and Iraqi fucking suicide killers , massacring their own people. How many Americans or Europeans have blown them selves up in a public place killing innocent people ? And what the hell is going on with all that dirty looking beards , do they really think that Europe will succumb to their barbaric culture and introduce Sharia laws , stoning to death men and women for committing adultery. Cypezokyli , I apologise if I hurt your feelings , you must know by my previous postings that I do not believe in your God or any one else's God. I hate the bastards of any religion that commit such barbaric acts in the name of their god , and right now guess who are doing so.

[cypezokyli]

dont worry miltiades , you are not hurting my feelings.
discussion never did

all i am trying to say is that europe (in specific) and the western world (in general) commited numerous barbaric acts as bad as suiside bombers, and quantitavely higher , before they achieved the level of freedom they have today. not to mention that there is nothing that can guarantee us that the western world will not drop back to brutality .

as for irak , i asked you before : where would the average iraqi , would have chosen to live , in saddams dictatorship or the todays "free iraq" ?
you are calling the suicide bombers barbarians , and you have not asked the question what other means they have to resist a better equiped , INVADING army ? isnt it a barbaric act to base an invation on lies , miltiades ? where are the WMDs ? in three years more people died than in the whole saddams regime , and we are justifies to call that "a way forward" ?

and again do not stay stuck on islam , just because the press overemphisizes a suicide bomber. the most bloody conflicts of the last 2 decades took place in africa and had nothing to do with islam.

[miltiades]

cyperzokily , can you name one such barbaric act where the perpetrators were religious fanatics and were committing premeditated , indiscriminate , despicable acts against innocent people ? What other means do they have you ask ???? For crying out loud man , they blow themselves up in London , on a London Bus , in the underground , not giving a shit who the victims are , cypezokyli , you should be ashamed of your self for suggesting that these vindictive sick bastards have no other means of expressing their dissatisfaction with what is going on in other countries, that just happen to be Muslim countries. The UK gave them self respect , unlike their native countries , it gave them freedom of speech , education , health care , money in the bank , why the fuck didn't the Cypriots in the 50s blew themselves up in the UK . BECAUSE NO CYPRIOT WOULD JUSTIFY AND EXCUSE THE KILLING OF INNOCENTS . I suggest you do the same. Think of all the innocent people aboard those ill fated aircraft that the fanatical Islamic braves crushed on 9/11 , imagine how they must have felt listening to those barbarians shouting God is great while killing all those innocent people. There is no moral justification for such hideous disgusting murders of innocents.
The Nazis were barbarians too , and the entire civilized world agrees on that , apart from Iran and a few other theocratic states .

[cypezokyli]

miltiades read my posts again.
there is a fundamental difference between someone blowing himself up in london , and someone in baghdad. i only reffered to the iraqis. never did i try to justify the attacks in NY, london or madrid.

as for the killing of civilians....once again open your eyes , look whats going on around the world , and stop blaming islam for everything.
the US doesnot like (anymore) saddam , over 30000 innocent iraqis died , and you are reffering to the deaths of civilians.
for the kidnapping (and let me repeat that -KIDNAPPING) of two soldiers israel is blindly killing civilians.
in rwanda , over half a million people were massacred. do you understand , the size of what happened in rwanda ? its like exterminating the whole of cyprus in a three months timespan! was that because of islam ? .... let me remind you about the western civilized attacks in hiroshima. indeed it shows the highest qualities of the western civilazation. they only attack armies... or the napalm bombs in vietnam...never are civilians their target....or the achievements of the nazis and the eastern block.... if we accept the historical necessity that europe went through in order to achieve the civilazation level it has today, then for islamist countries to reach that point of civilization it needs to massacre (just an estimation of the european murders in the last century..) over 100million more.

i dont want to go on with paradigms, i hope you understand...

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i honestly do not understand why it disturbs you when someone blows himself up (always in the context of an iraqi , blowing himself up in order to kill american soldiers - dont play it clever and moove the discussion to london attacks again ) . if he shot them with a kalashnikov would it make you more happy ? what is it exactly that disturbs you with suicide attacks ?

[Freddy]

Sadam was indeed a clever man. He was known to have chem & bio weapons, he proved it by using them on his own peoples, ensured the USA were able to find the sites and transporters via sattelite, taunted the UN by hiding and continuously moving the stuff around the country, then, WITH THE USA STILL BELIEVING HE STILL HAD THE STUFF, secretly got rid of the weapons and then called 'foul-play' when the coalition forces went in! But, unfortunately, he will not suffer any bodily harm for all the suffering he caused to individuals and certain factions of the Iraqi population.

[miltiades]

cypezokyli wrote :
""honestly do not understand why it disturbs you when someone blows himself up (always in the context of an iraqi , blowing himself up in order to kill american soldiers - don't play it clever and moove the discussion to london attacks again ) . if he shot them with a kalashnikov would it make you more happy ? what is it exactly that disturbs you with suicide attacks ? ""

I'm flabbergasted to say the least , I will not even try to answer this " What is it that that disturbs me with suicide attacks ????
Why not ask me if paedophilia , gerontophilia , necrophilia , mass murder disturb me. What makes perfectly civilised humans come to the defence he most abhorrent sadistic acts .
What disturbs me about suicide killers is the fact that some sick perverted ideology convinces them of a place in heaven and justifies indiscriminate murder , that is the core of the matter. As far I'm concerned such morally corrupt individuals are nothing more than vermin.

[cypezokyli]

Sadam was indeed a clever man. He was known to have chem & bio weapons, he proved it by using them on his own peoples, ensured the USA were able to find the sites and transporters via sattelite, taunted the UN by hiding and continuously moving the stuff around the country, then, WITH THE USA STILL BELIEVING HE STILL HAD THE STUFF, secretly got rid of the weapons and then called 'foul-play' when the coalition forces went in! But, unfortunately, he will not suffer any bodily harm for all the suffering he caused to individuals and certain factions of the Iraqi population.

i think I never met anyone who actually believes that the US goverment attacked bc of the WMDs.
not to mention i ve never heard the theory before that he had them and he god rid of it!!!!

could you be kind enough to share your sources with us ?
(unless you are being sarcastic ofource )

[cypezokyli]

cypezokyli wrote :
""honestly do not understand why it disturbs you when someone blows himself up (always in the context of an iraqi , blowing himself up in order to kill american soldiers - don't play it clever and moove the discussion to london attacks again ) . if he shot them with a kalashnikov would it make you more happy ? what is it exactly that disturbs you with suicide attacks ? ""

I'm flabbergasted to say the least , I will not even try to answer this " What is it that that disturbs me with suicide attacks ????
Why not ask me if paedophilia , gerontophilia , necrophilia , mass murder disturb me. What makes perfectly civilised humans come to the defence he most abhorrent sadistic acts .
What disturbs me about suicide killers is the fact that some sick perverted ideology convinces them of a place in heaven and justifies indiscriminate murder , that is the core of the matter. As far I'm concerned such morally corrupt individuals are nothing more than vermin.

how about those individuals who some sick perverted ideology (pure economic self interests ) convinces them that it is justified to indiscriminate murder, just to satisfy their own interests ?
what is the difference ?

[miltiades]

They are all sick perverts , but I don't have hung ups like you do , I would call them barbarians regardless of what religious poison they drink , clearly you feel bad about criticizing fanatic Muslims that are causing havoc around the world.I thought that you had seen the light , but clearly you haven't .
Your excusing their murderous acts because deep down you are a believer your self in the bullshit philosophy of God all mighty , and the promised land of paradise. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR INDISCRIMINATE PRE-MEDITATED MURDER,.

[raymanuva]

Not to disrespect islam, but this fanatic stuff is really getting into my nerves, those are kids for f**s sake!!!